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  • SCREWTAPE
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    #31
    Originally posted by teckat
    one pin hole / or one scratch - on Drum will create four single color MYCK dots on this model
    What a pity...

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    • Penvy
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      #32
      AND the line up every time!! but its YMCK how nice!

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      • teckat
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        #33
        one pin hole/nick/scratch + four rotations=four dots=YMCK=a big headache

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        • Penvy
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          #34
          Its really neat how they all line up every time, they never get it wrong.


          for the desperate,
          one idea comes to mind, years ago you could we used to "fill" the nick w/micro pin drop of clear nail polish let it dry
          no print in the dot area but no dots.

          $700 per drum stinks for a problem again Canon knows about.

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          • teckat
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            #35
            it's always in an image area on Drum because of those Dam Coronas/
            Lets get rid of them !!!!!!!!!!!!!


            I will start working on it later

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            • Penvy
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              #36
              and they are a bad beer too! never liked them yup and Coors too!

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              • Canuck
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                #37
                Originally posted by teckat
                one pin hole / or one scratch - on Drum will create four single color MYCK dots on this model
                On this model they come out in the order of YMCK...look at your posted pdfs

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                • Penvy
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                  #38
                  Hey,
                  now yer gettin pickey with the Dots

                  What bugs me is the Arc that would cause that

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                  • SCREWTAPE
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                    #39
                    It is what It is..

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                    • teckat
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Penvy
                      Hey,
                      now yer gettin pickey with the Dots

                      What bugs me is the Arc that would cause that
                      In some cases the high-current density provided by the corona charging device may cause damage to the photoconductor in places in which small pinholes or depressions exist in the photoconductive coating.

                      The irregularities in the photoconductive coating> give rise to strong local fields in the area of the photoconductive member surrounding the pinhole. These strong local fields cause the onset of a glow discharge which eventually results in electrical breakdown and arc-over to the corona wire. To significantly reduce the change of electrical breakdown in the corona charging unit, a suppressor screen is added between the corona wire and the photoconductive member and energized with a relatively low potential. The addition of the suppressor screen not only reduces the chance of arc-over, but also leads to a charge limiting effect so that the charge on the photoconductor is uniformly placed.

                      With the addition of the suppressor screen a somewhat different mode of operation can be used for the corona charging unit. By applying to the bias rods an intermediate level voltage, the corona wires can be operated at a higher voltage thereby operating at a greater efficiency due to the field gradient being greater between the corona wires and the photoconductive member.



                      Arc Voltage
                      is that amount of voltage that exists on contacts separated by a small gap that will cause an
                      electric discharge across the gap.

                      Arc Current is that amount of current necessary to just sustain an arc caused by the arcvoltage
                      electric discharge.

                      Arcing can occur when a low resistance channel (foreign object, conductive dust, moisture...) forms between places with different potential. The conductive channel then can facilitate formation of an electric arc


                      Poor end block connections/ fingerprint oil smudges left on grid/post wire/ or side plates= A potential ARC Situation.

                      Blocked or Dirty Ozone filters can cause an ARC
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                      • teckat
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                        #41
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                        Drum Repair Kit

                        (believe it or not)

                        has all the Drum Colors u Need
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                        • Penvy
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                          #42
                          How would that work on a C1 4 color?
                          Where did you find this?

                          I like the idea!
                          P

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                          • teckat
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Penvy
                            How would that work on a C1 4 color?
                            Where did you find this?

                            I like the idea!
                            P



                            don't think it will work on a photosensitive drum/ but u never know till u try


                            heard a rumor that a tech used it on a selenium drum nick, then used nail polish over it


                            don't think they work on printers anymore/
                            was moved to car/body shop repair

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                            • Penvy
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                              #44
                              Then we get out the Bondo and filler I am all for that.

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                              • Penvy
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                                #45
                                Quick Question
                                The C1 is working fine except those dots.
                                I do not think its from the pre charge carona
                                Is there a setting on the HV and Grid to bring down.
                                were at 999 hv and 464 grid.

                                Any setting to bring down to stop this arc/ pitting?

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