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  • kingpd@businessprints.net
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Feb 2008
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    #31
    I love all kinds of technologies. Specifically to printing, I like inkjets, lasers, and offset printing. There's good and bad to all of them and they're very different. Even though some of the technologies are hundreds of years old and some newer they are all quite fascinating considering someone had to come up with the idea out of nothingness.

    Here's some honest advice for aab1. You seem to have a knack for technology and modifying it to suit your needs, drive down costs, etc. You also seem very passionate about your inkjets and that's cool. I myself love copiers, even more specific I love the study of magnetology.

    You should try and put your energy and gift into good use. Maybe you can design your own inkjet, or patent and sell a modification to the manufacturer.

    Now in my opinion, lasers are far superior in most applications. It's my opinion right now and no one will change it. But if laser devices are costing more than inkjets, see if you can come up with a way to improve them and make them for less money without the loss of quality.

    As far as inkjets go, here's something you can work on...address printers. Check them out, they are made by several companies, Bryce, Secap, Pitney Bowes, Hasler, Neopost, Rena, and probably others. Now these printers use inkjet technology, actually they use HP inkjet cartridges but they cost several thousand up to tens of thousands of dollars. Bottom line, they are inkjet printers. But they are made to handle small and large envelopes, booklets, and postcards. They feed them better (with straight paper path) to apply the addresses and barcodes for bulk mailing and discounts. Maybe you can come up with a more cost effective address printer. If anyone can do it, it has to be you. I mean that in a positive way.

    Maybe someday there will be an AAB1 address inkjet printer for less than ten grand that any business can afford.

    As far as your original question, I don't know. Maybe it can be disabled, maybe not. Maybe you can modify it. We used to have a complaint of a dedicated brother fax that kept beeping or ringing so I snipped the speaker wires...problem solved.

    I don't know what country you're from but Verizon has a distinctive ring feature you can get. Basically two numbers on one phone line, the fax gets a unique ring to it and you set the fax up to recognize it. Call your phone company about it.

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    • aab1
      End User
      • Oct 2010
      • 305

      #32
      Originally posted by kingpd@businessprints.net
      See Blackcat, now you got him started on those son-of-a-biatchin' ink refills...haha.

      Dare I ask, but didn't you say or someone say that they have water resistant inks...b/c that was one advantage of laser to begin with?
      They do but the inks cost a bit more (maybe like $55 a liter VS $50) and I'm not sure it's as resistant, I had tried it with a print from one of those new inkjets and put it under running water the ink didn't seem to smudge but maybe eventually would. With laser since it's molten plastic there's no way it's going anywhere even under Niagara falls. Laser also has the benefit of making glossy images even on plain paper as well as being able to use glossy paper that costs next to nothing. Glossy paper for inkjets costs a fortune because it's hard to make a surface that's both glossy and porous to absorb ink. So for glossy prints laser ends up cheaper as long as the print coverage isn't too high since the paper costs considerably less. So laser does have it's advantages that are worth the much higher cost per page when needed.

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      • aab1
        End User
        • Oct 2010
        • 305

        #33
        Originally posted by kingpd@businessprints.net
        Maybe you can design your own inkjet, or patent and sell a modification to the manufacturer.
        lol, yea, I'm sure manufacturers are going to love making only 0.4 cents per color print when they can make 7 cents per color print on inkjets.

        As I said lasers do offer water proof prints and glossy images on plain paper, but I don't see any other advantages. Especially later this year when 60 ppm inkjets at 3600 dpi under $200 come out. For now you need to pay $25000 for a 150 ppm inkjet, but current $200 inkjets are still 35ppm, much faster than any laser even at 5 times that price.

        This is the one I have now:

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        • kingpd@businessprints.net
          Senior Tech

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          • Feb 2008
          • 921

          #34
          Originally posted by aab1
          As I said lasers do offer water proof prints and glossy images on plain paper, but I don't see any other advantages.
          This is the one I have now:
          YouTube - HP Officejet Pro L7780 Fastest All In One
          Just keep and open mind and maybe you will begin to see more advantages to laser.

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          • aab1
            End User
            • Oct 2010
            • 305

            #35
            Originally posted by kingpd@businessprints.net
            Just keep and open mind and maybe you will begin to see more advantages to laser.
            Well I literally have one of each side by side since 1-2 months. Can you tell me what other advantages?

            Cost per color page
            Inkjet: 0.4 cents per page (with refills) 7 cents a page (genuine cartridges)
            Laser: 2.5 cents per page (with refills) 25 cents a page (genuine cartridges)

            Maintenance
            Inkjet: Replace ink bottles every 50 000 prints, printheads every 60 000 prints
            Laser: Refill toner every 2000 pages, replace cartridge/drum units every 8000 pages

            Print Quality
            Inkjet: 4800 DPI, photo quality
            Laser: 600 DPI, visible dots/grainy prints

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            • Brian8506
              Service Manager

              Site Contributor
              1,000+ Posts
              • Feb 2009
              • 1664

              #36
              Which makes you more of an asshole to come to this forum looking for help and come out with something that stupid. I honestly dont even believe that you're a printer, just a tech posting meaningless pictures of things that probably aren't yours. No businessman would come to this forum looking for help and spend the time you have trashing one manufacturer while sucking up to another and return week after week with some of the questions you've come here with. Had enough of this thread. Time to move on.

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              • mrwho
                Major Asshole!

                Site Contributor
                2,500+ Posts
                • Apr 2009
                • 4299

                #37
                Originally posted by aab1
                Well I literally have one of each side by side since 1-2 months. Can you tell me what other advantages?

                Cost per color page
                Inkjet: 0.4 cents per page (with refills) 7 cents a page (genuine cartridges)
                Laser: 2.5 cents per page (with refills) 25 cents a page (genuine cartridges)

                Maintenance
                Inkjet: Replace ink bottles every 50 000 prints, printheads every 60 000 prints
                Laser: Refill toner every 2000 pages, replace cartridge/drum units every 8000 pages

                Print Quality
                Inkjet: 4800 DPI, photo quality
                Laser: 600 DPI, visible dots/grainy prints
                Which begs, once more, the question: what brings you here besides sheer fanboyism?
                ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                Mascan42

                'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                Ibid

                I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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                • dinkyoaf
                  Technician

                  50+ Posts
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 63

                  #38
                  Originally posted by KenB
                  125 posts and still a Rep Power of zilch.

                  Kinda says it all, doesn't it?

                  Go figure.
                  How do you gain Rep Power, anyway?

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                  • dinkyoaf
                    Technician

                    50+ Posts
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 63

                    #39
                    Originally posted by aab1
                    lol, yea, I'm sure manufacturers are going to love making only 0.4 cents per color print when they can make 7 cents per color print on inkjets.

                    As I said lasers do offer water proof prints and glossy images on plain paper, but I don't see any other advantages. Especially later this year when 60 ppm inkjets at 3600 dpi under $200 come out. For now you need to pay $25000 for a 150 ppm inkjet, but current $200 inkjets are still 35ppm, much faster than any laser even at 5 times that price.

                    This is the one I have now:
                    YouTube - HP Officejet Pro L7780 Fastest All In One

                    Ink dries. Toner is dry. Toner has a massive shelf life.

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                    • aab1
                      End User
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 305

                      #40
                      Originally posted by dinkyoaf
                      Ink dries. Toner is dry. Toner has a massive shelf life.
                      Ink doesn't dry when it's in a sealed bottle (it's also in sealed bottles on my mod other than the hole for the tubes being every so slightly bigger than the tubes [the tubes still fit snugly in the holes and aren't loose] otherwise the printer's ink pump makes the bottles collapse as it pumps the ink out so the minuscule space between the tube and hole allows the pressure to equalize and prevent collapsing bottles) and keeps for years.

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                      • kingpd@businessprints.net
                        Senior Tech

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                        • Feb 2008
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by dinkyoaf
                        How do you gain Rep Power, anyway?
                        There's a little star (looks like a sherif's badge) where people can give you positive or negative reputation. I suppose you get it for several things. Maybe you've helped someone out so they increase your rep power. Maybe you've posted something helpful or funny or anything that would inspire someone to increase your reputation rating.

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                        • mrwho
                          Major Asshole!

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                          • Apr 2009
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by dinkyoaf
                          How do you gain Rep Power, anyway?
                          People give it to - or take it from - you. Think of it as a voting system for your posts.
                          ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                          Mascan42

                          'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                          Ibid

                          I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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                          • dinkyoaf
                            Technician

                            50+ Posts
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 63

                            #43
                            Good to know. I'll have to give credit where it's due!

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                            • mrwho
                              Major Asshole!

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by dinkyoaf
                              Good to know. I'll have to give credit where it's due!
                              Or take it.

                              Use the little star on the bottom left of the post you want to rate/downrate.
                              ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                              Mascan42

                              'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                              Ibid

                              I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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                              • kingpd@businessprints.net
                                Senior Tech

                                500+ Posts
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 921

                                #45
                                Originally posted by aab1
                                Well I literally have one of each side by side since 1-2 months. Can you tell me what other advantages?

                                Cost per color page
                                Inkjet: 0.4 cents per page (with refills) 7 cents a page (genuine cartridges)
                                Laser: 2.5 cents per page (with refills) 25 cents a page (genuine cartridges)

                                Maintenance
                                Inkjet: Replace ink bottles every 50 000 prints, printheads every 60 000 prints
                                Laser: Refill toner every 2000 pages, replace cartridge/drum units every 8000 pages

                                Print Quality
                                Inkjet: 4800 DPI, photo quality
                                Laser: 600 DPI, visible dots/grainy prints
                                Well with trying to keep it simple...

                                Lasers are up to 2400x2400 dpi I think. I have noticed better quality on a 600dpi laser than a 600dpi inkjet. Inkjets have different nozzle and droplet sizes and toner is typically a smaller particle. Plus inkjets use one of two methods I think, one is sending current to the nozzles so they vibrate. Laser has extra crispness b/c it is written with a fine laser beam. Also manufacturers have been producing smaller and rounder toner particles. Text can only look so good to the eye. Comparing b/w photo on a 600dpi laser to a 1200dpi laser is very different...much better graphics.

                                Honestly the machine you've chosen as a laser is a smaller machine, as size, speed, and volume increase, the toners get bigger and cheaper and cost per page goes down.

                                Lasers last longer and do more, just look at the highest volume page count forum here, many reach tens of millions or more.

                                So why does laser dominate the office environment so much more than inkjet? Well actually they probably complement each other realistically. Inkjet tends to sit on people desks and lasers tend to be for workgroups and departments.

                                There's one thing you have to keep in mind aab1, 99% of the market isn't going to care or modify any machine like you have. Most people work for someone else and just want to get through their day and go the hell home. The secretary just wants to order a toner or drum cartridge and pop the bad boy in the machine and forget about it. Also inkjet machines don't have the service technician networks like lasers do. So when your copier breaks down you call the dealer and they come out. Most people don't want anything to do with machines or supplies and don't care how much their company pays for it or who they get it from, except maybe when they initially buy the machine.

                                Your mod may work great for you and save you tons of money but most end users and buyers won't care, won't know how or even think of dealing with it.

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