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  • Peter Sim
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    • Sep 2008
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    #1

    ir6000 finisher F1

    Hi all,
    Need help.
    Finisher was running well untill it move to tray B and the error code E584 appear.
    Try to change the second feed motor and replace the finisher contoller pcb,but the problem still appear.
    Please help.
    Thank you in advance.
  • teckat
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    • Jan 2010
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    #2
    Originally posted by Peter Sim
    Hi all,
    Need help.
    Finisher was running well untill it move to tray B and the error code E584 appear.
    Try to change the second feed motor and replace the finisher contoller pcb,but the problem still appear.
    Please help.
    Thank you in advance.
    There is a switch on the rear side of the finisher, increase the spring tension and adjust the switch actuator.
    MS3 switch detects the movement of the of the trays

    Check the Compression Spring on MSW3, located on the rear frame side of the Finisher, it may have become dislodged.
    This prevents the switch from being actuated by the Tray Frame Assembly. After installing a new Compression spring on MSW3 the finisher should begin to function normally.
    If the spring is installed correctly and is intact, verify the operation of the switch.
    IMG_6385.jpg
    Spring ,Compression FS6-2564-000

    Microswitch, MSW3 WC4-5130-000
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    • Peter Sim
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      #3
      Thank you Mr teckat for your reply.
      I change the spring and microswitch ,the problem still remain.
      I try to press the SW1 to move the tray up,but finisher show error code E584.
      I can see that the M8 motor moving to the opposite direction,and cause the shutter not to move up and down.
      Mr teckat ,is there any function to test the finisher M8 motor and the shutter sensor?

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      • teckat
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        #4
        Peter, check your PM

        If sensor PI-5 is not aligned correctly when the finisher starts up the gate will not open and close. This gives the appearance that the gate motor or sensor is not working when in fact the sensor to the shutter did not change state, causing an E584 code


        Make sure that PI-5 is changing state when the shutter is raised and lowered.
        This can be checked at J12B-6 on the finisher controller. A change of 5 VDC should occur at this pin location.

        Found this>>
        E584 - 50T Swing Gear Unit
        replacing the 50T Swing Gear Unit (FG6-6487-000) corrected the error.


        Finisher-F1.jpg

        do u have a sub-code ???
        Error was E584 0002 only when feeding to tray 2.

        Solution was to replace the Lower Hurdle Guide Assembly FG6-6244-000
        figure Q10 #15 in parts manual
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        • teckat
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          #5
          F1.JPG
          F2.JPG
          F3.JPG
          Tray Operation
          The finisher has two delivery trays for normal delivery, each accepting sheets.
          Each tray is moved up and down by the tray lift motor (M5).
          The position of tray is identified with reference to the number of clock pulses of the tray lift motor clock sensor 1/2 (PI9/PI19) coming from the tray home position sensor (PI8). The finisher controller PCB finds out in which direction (up or down) the tray is moving based on combinations of pulses from the two clock sensors.
          The finisher controller PCB drives the tray lift motor (M5) to return the tray to the home position at power-on. If the tray is already at the home position, it is kept in wait as it is.
          The finisher controller PCB moves up and down the tray selected by the host machine so that it is positioned at the delivery slot.
          The upper limit of the tray is detected by the tray upper limit detecting switch (MS5). The finisher controller PCB stops the drive (up) of the tray lift motor (M5) as soon as the tray upper limit detecting switch turns on.
          The height of the stack on the tray is identified by the height sensor (PS1), which measures its distance from the top of the stack. The tray is moved down when the distance between the top of the stack and the delivery assembly drops to a specific measurement.
          The finisher controller PCB cuts off the +24V power of the tray lift motor (M5) as soon as the safety zone detecting switch (MS3) turns on while the shutter and the swing guide are open, stopping the operation of the finisher.

          F4.JPG

          Shutter Operation

          Before the tray on which sheets are output is shifted by the tray lift motor (M5) to another tray, the finisher controller PCB closes the shutter mounted on the delivery slot before moving the tray, preventing the existing stack on the tray by the delivery slot and intrusion of the hands.
          The shutter moves up (to close) when the second feed motor (M8) rotates counterclockwise, and is held in position when the motor stops. When the second feed motor rotates counterclockwise once again, it moves down (to open) to enable delivery.
          When the shutter is held at the up position, claws slide out of the swing guide to engage the back of the shutter. This way, the existing slack and the swing guide engage while the tray is moved, preventing the guide from opening. The claws slide in when the shutter is moved down to release the engagement.
          The upward movement of the shutter is monitored by the shutter closed detecting switch (MS4), and the downward movement is monitored by the shutter open sensor (PI5).
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          • Peter Sim
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            #6
            Sorry for the late reply.Is E584-002.
            Thank you Mr teckat for the valuable info.I will try to find out the problem.

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            • teckat
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              #7
              Originally posted by Peter Sim
              Sorry for the late reply.Is E584-002.
              Thank you Mr teckat for the valuable info.I will try to find out the problem.
              If this applies to You>check
              Error Code E584-002 and Noise
              Error Code E584-002 occurs and a squeaking noise is heard.


              Check or repalce the Shutter Cam (FB3-7298-0000) shown circled in following image (key16). The shaft that the cam fits onto needs to be cleaned .
              Fig.jpg

              Check that the Shutter Open Sensor (PI5) is not out of place and that the flag is not
              damaged.


              PI5.jpg
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