Best Built Copiers ?

[scomeau1]

I know I'm in the Canon forum, but what do you guy's this is the best built copiers as I'm still looking for more machines.

1. Canon
2. KM
3. Sharp
4. Xerox

Thanks for your input !

Scott

[gensys]

I know I'm in the Canon forum, but what do you guy's this is the best built copiers as I'm still looking for more machines.

1. Canon
2. KM
3. Sharp
4. Xerox

Thanks for your input !

Scott

If want that worked as a tractor without problems it is The Digitall Konika Minolta 70-75 ppm > mashins
If you understand copiers at level of the engineer, unequivocally Canon of line iR > 55 & high ppm mashins
Konica > have 2 problem
1. > Developer.
2. > Toner.
Canon it is mashin with 1 component Toner (Dev+toner) & problem resolv.
I had many masin > many manufacturers.Richo Aficio, Konica, Canon e.t.c
My brand CANON

[MR Bill]

I service Kyocera and am very satified with the quality . Very few problems in the 16 per minute CPM machines up to the 50 CPM machines.

Don't have enough experiance with the other brands you mentioned to comment on them.

[D_L_P]

My 2 cents. Canon is best. Fewer weak points. I'm seeing more and more metal tipped sensor flags, fewer reflective type sensors, fewer clutches, more stepper motors, less plastic guides......
One of these days I'm going to take pictures of the wimpy stuff that Ricoh calls a "clutch" and "motor", and then take pics of the clutches and motors you will find in a Canon and expose Ricoh for the cheap crap parts whores they are. Sorry, I just had to throw that in about Ricoh.

KM - I don't know much about them except for a few of their Color copiers, and honestly I like them better than the older Canon CLC's.


Sharp - Never worked on them, but they sure do make a nice B/W copy from what I've seen.


Xerox - I'd say these are a close 2nd to Canon, only because they use lots of plastic and I don't like those reflective sensors they use. Even with all the plastic the run pretty good and you can strip it to the frame in about 10 minutes!! They are ahead of the curve with the Customer Replaceable Units. I think the rest of the manufacturer's are going to follow their lead with those.

IMHO

[jonezy999]

Ricoh clutches and motors do look undersized, but I don't see many failing.
Canon make a good box, but when they shit themselves, they do a good job of it.
Toshiba's e-6520c would be my pick of colour machines.
Ricoh MP6000 and so on make for reliable B/W boxes.

[MR Bill]

I would never doing anything with sharp. Most of them come with tails , That's how much of a dog they are.

My experiance is on the 20 CPM Sharps.

Some of the others might be ok.

When the 20 cpm machines hit 100,000 copies they are done.

[teckat]

One word "Canon"

[ymmtech]

Just wanted to mention the hard disk related problems that xerox and canon had. Xerox machine put system program at flash rom , the hard disk only hold copy cache, print cache... Which makes the machine can have minimum functions even if the hard disk down. It will be needlessly to do any system software reload except for version upgrade.
Of course the canon disk problem is still very small percentages compared to the overall complain call received. For these small percentages, my son can have a bit more pocket money to school because i am employed to fix the hard disk problem.

[gensys]

The Best Copier

My 2 cents. Canon is best. Fewer weak points. I'm seeing more and more metal tipped sensor flags, fewer reflective type sensors, fewer clutches, more stepper motors, less plastic guides......
One of these days I'm going to take pictures of the wimpy stuff that Ricoh calls a "clutch" and "motor", and then take pics of the clutches and motors you will find in a Canon and expose Ricoh for the cheap crap parts whores they are. Sorry, I just had to throw that in about Ricoh.

KM - I don't know much about them except for a few of their Color copiers, and honestly I like them better than the older Canon CLC's.


Sharp - Never worked on them, but they sure do make a nice B/W copy from what I've seen.


Xerox - I'd say these are a close 2nd to Canon, only because they use lots of plastic and I don't like those reflective sensors they use. Even with all the plastic the run pretty good and you can strip it to the frame in about 10 minutes!! They are ahead of the curve with the Customer Replaceable Units. I think the rest of the manufacturer's are going to follow their lead with those.

IMHO

I had many machines Rico Aficio 400.Aficio 450, Aficio 1045 now costs at me in office > bay in with counter 168000 >today 1345000 printed in flow of three years.............Many problems were with all devices of this vendor fuser unite , laser exp.sys., drum unite ........
There were no problems Canon NP1215, Canon Olivetti 1520, Canon NP7550, Canon NP6020, CLC 300, CLC450, iR 6570, iR 5570


But each machine is original and the individual approach demands

[jonezy999]

Has anyone seen the new KM colour machines on fire yet? Just read a bulletin regarding one of the electromagnetic clutches having a harness fault which has resulted in a recall on 4 models built up until March 2011.

[Hemlock]

Honestly, they're all pretty well built. Sharp, Kyocera/Mita, KonicaMinolta, Ricoh and the rest have made huge strides from where they were 10-15 years ago.

[teckat]

Believe it or not-

85%/90% of HDD issues are caused by the customer/
they just love that fuxxxng power flipping switch.

[Tricky]

Canon are the best I have worked on.

Toshiba do deserve a mention for being the worst.

[seniortech]

Believe it or not-

85%/90% of HDD issues are caused by the customer/
they just love that fuxxxng power flipping switch.

Yes, how true that is, I agree 100%

[DAG COPIERS & COMPUTERS]

" Canon ". The very word "canon" itself was well chosen by the company owners.
It means, " A model of EXCELLENCE! ", and I bet they have so far lived up to the very meaning of the word. But believe me of late KYOCERA-MITA has made considerable advancement & improvements in its product designs, especially the 35/50 cpm series. I also find their firmware upgrade process much more user friendly than canon's sst. The only problem with KMs is that the machines parts are very expensive, especially the Maintenance Kits. Recently I forked out close to $1,200. for KM2550 maintenace kit from a dealer here.