Ir 4570 pick up the paper slow from a4 trays????

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  • SESHU
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    • Feb 2009
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    #1

    [Jamming] Ir 4570 pick up the paper slow from a4 trays????

    HI...

    ir 4570 1st two trays used A4 paper.. running this mechine 5k copies more..
    recently those trays pick up the paper is very slow..
    changed new pick up rubber's as use as well . but not working... max 80 to 100 papers pick up copies continuesly.. after jammed the paper just pick up or paper comes out reached to drum . removed jammed paper and again load its comes paper again 30 to 40 copies contnuesly again jammed..

    i remove those pick up trays assemblys and clean with blower..
    but problem not solved.

    what' s the problem.
  • milind_1127
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 8

    #2
    What is the jam code showing in paper jam history.

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    • zoraldinho
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      • Mar 2008
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      #3
      Do you have modified machine?

      Grey vertical path.
      new type of doors.

      If paper run slow check paper type settings.

      Post jam history.
      If it ain't broke, don't fix it
      A picture is worth a thousand words

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      • SESHU
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        • Feb 2009
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        #4
        i checked up in the jam history.
        various codes are shown is there.
        1.jam type: Delay. sensor: Ps9c
        2.jam typr : Delay . Sensor : Ps1c
        3.jam type : Delay. Sensor: Ps13 ,PS14
        4.Jam Type : STNRY. Sesnor : Ps3a

        these jam codes shown heavy. in upper two a4 trays..

        so many papers wasted during copies for this jam..

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        • SESHU
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          #5
          no. i Dont modify the mechine.
          every time any thing paper jam from trays . i can change new pick up rubbers as well as.
          same as i do .
          but pick up side problem or tray assembly any gears rubbed for heavy work????
          How to rectify this????

          recently this problem i shown in 2 to 3 mechines also.
          can't rectified.

          what's up.....

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          • Tricky
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            • Apr 2009
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            #6
            Originally posted by zoraldinho
            Do you have modified machine?

            Grey vertical path.
            new type of doors.

            If paper run slow check paper type settings.

            Post jam history.
            Good point

            If you apply pressure to the lower door while copying and if it doesn't jam the door needs attention.

            The reg sensor just below the dev roller also wears and there's an upgraded one with a metal strip available.

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            • dhanesh
              Technician
              • Jun 2010
              • 63

              #7
              Originally posted by skynet
              Good point

              If you apply pressure to the lower door while copying and if it doesn't jam the door needs attention.

              The reg sensor just below the dev roller also wears and there's an upgraded one with a metal strip available.
              hey is this metal strip succesful?
              DHANESH

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              • zoraldinho
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                #8
                Touch an arbitrary jam display screen to see details about the jam.

                (1) To previous page
                (2) To next page
                (3) Jam sequential number
                (4) Jam type
                (5) Corresponding sensor
                (6) To next jam screen
                (7) To previous jam screen
                <No.> Jam sequential number: 1 to 50 (The oldest jam has the greatest number.)
                <DATE> Jam occurrence date
                <TIME1> Jam occurrence time
                <TIME2> Jam reset time
                <L>Location of the jam: 0 - 2 (0:host machine, 1:Feeder, 2:Finisher)
                <CODE>Jam Code
                <P> Paper feed position
                1: Cassette 1, 2: Cassette 2, 3: Cassette 3, 4: Cassette 4, 5: Side paper deck, 6: Manual feed tray, 7: Duplex section
                <CNTR> Software counter value of the paper feed stage
                <SIZE> Paper size

                ScreenShot001.jpg

                Some service bulletins against jam codes.

                ir4570-032.pdf
                ir4570-033.pdf
                ir4570-048.pdf
                ir4570-056.pdf
                ir4570-063.pdf
                ir4570-082.pdf
                ir4570-094.pdf
                ir4570-071.pdf
                ir4570-079.pdf
                If it ain't broke, don't fix it
                A picture is worth a thousand words

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                • SESHU
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                  #9
                  i also checked up....

                  there is no answer about my problem...
                  what to do delay the paper jam ....
                  in jam history every jam paper says jam for delay the paper.....
                  i guess the problem is in tray assembly......???

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                  • Borsody75
                    Technician

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                    • Mar 2011
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                    #10
                    If there is jam from both trays, you have a minimal chance of tray assy error.
                    Please attach jam history as Zoraldinho asked.

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                    • mrfixit51
                      Lead Service Technician

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                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1975

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dhanesh
                      hey is this metal strip succesful?
                      Yes, very,,, the tip will not wear down indicating false jams, the coarser the paper, the quicker the tip wears down when not protected by the metal strip...
                      "Once a King, always a King, but once a Knight is enough!"

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                      • SESHU
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by mrfixit51
                        Yes, very,,, the tip will not wear down indicating false jams, the coarser the paper, the quicker the tip wears down when not protected by the metal strip...
                        i checked it also.....

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                        • teckat
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by SESHU
                          i checked it also.....

                          if your are a Senior Tech , as u posted ?
                          u need to post the jam codes,
                          if u don't know where the jam codes are listed,

                          Sorry, but u are in wrong business
                          **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                          • Borsody75
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                            • Mar 2011
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                            #14
                            Hi Seshu!

                            Have you checked the blue drum protector cover?

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                            • SESHU
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Borsody75
                              Hi Seshu!

                              Have you checked the blue drum protector cover?
                              yes.....

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