Canon ir 5070 jams with legal in doc feeder only

[pjdbm]

I have this machine that jams the machine when using the doc feeder for legal .

I c an copy legal off the glass all day long but when I put legal in the doc feeder the machine jams, the machine sounds like it is getting the wrong paper size and it jams.

I remember a few years ago I had an issue like this and I think it was a setting that needed to be done.

I went into service/feeder/adjust and adjusted paper size for each size and still N/G.

All other paper sizes runs with no problems.

[its_just_a_copier]

Re: Canon ir 5070 jams with legal in doc feeder only

Did you try FEEDER>FUNCTION>SENS-INT ?

[pjdbm]

Re: Canon ir 5070 jams with legal in doc feeder only

yes, that was the first thing I did,thanks

[its_just_a_copier]

Re: Canon ir 5070 jams with legal in doc feeder only

What Jam Code are you getting?

[pjdbm]

Re: Canon ir 5070 jams with legal in doc feeder only

I will get them tomorrow,I had to bolt out of there to do another call.

paper jams little more than half way out the finisher exit and one in the turnaround unit past the fuser rollers. Like I said,she will do a 100 off glass but int doc feeder,jams a multi run.

[charm5496]

Re: Canon ir 5070 jams with legal in doc feeder only

do a main controller clear, but back up your mailbox and address book before clearing. You may want to check you firmware versions as well.

[pjdbm]

Re: Canon ir 5070 jams with legal in doc feeder only

jam code here is 020f


went back today and confirmed FEEDER>FUNCTION>SENS-INT and re adjusted all paper sizes in feeder.

This machines jams legal when inverting,off the glass she feeds normal, when using doc feeder the machine inverts legal and jams. I replaced the one way 27T gear and did not fix it. I had the unit out and checked the invert gate/black plastic lever it all looks good.

This one is bugging me out

[vigour]

Re: Canon ir 5070 jams with legal in doc feeder only

is your machine close to or over a million copies?
legal jamming, wrinkling, or tearing at the delivery area is normally fixed by reverse roller and external delivery roller, changing internal delivery and fb5 3394 flapper arm at the same time would make sense.

i have seen the metal dust from lower fuser bearings fall all over the big duplex buffer rollers, causing slipping with long paper. i think it gives 020f jams.

[teckat]

Re: Canon ir 5070 jams with legal in doc feeder only

jam code here is 020f


went back today and confirmed FEEDER>FUNCTION>SENS-INT and re adjusted all paper sizes in feeder.

This machines jams legal when inverting,off the glass she feeds normal, when using doc feeder the machine inverts legal and jams. I replaced the one way 27T gear and did not fix it. I had the unit out and checked the invert gate/black plastic lever it all looks good.

This one is bugging me out

020F / r u sure u have the correct jam code/ ??

that is not a doc feeder jam code ~~~~~~~~~!!!!!
xx0F fixing claw jam sensor
020F stationary jam


020F Jam only with Legal sized paper
Check Delivery Roller
Check the Inverter Roller and related bearings for binding.

[pjdbm]

Re: Canon ir 5070 jams with legal in doc feeder only

Hi Teckat

yes the code is 020f under the letter P it reads 3 and under CNTR it reads 7333,7323,7321 all legal

The jams are at the gate and you can hear it when it going to jam.

I swear it sounds like the machine is getting a wrong size but will have to go back tomorrow with another tech. I pulled that oneway drive motor and gears to look for a broken gear or an worn pin slot but found nothing bad.

why just legal jams and not letter through the feeder

[pjdbm]

Re: Canon ir 5070 jams with legal in doc feeder only

is your machine close to or over a million copies?
legal jamming, wrinkling, or tearing at the delivery area is normally fixed by reverse roller and external delivery roller, changing internal delivery and fb5 3394 flapper arm at the same time would make sense.

i have seen the metal dust from lower fuser bearings fall all over the big duplex buffer rollers, causing slipping with long paper. i think it gives 020f jams.

machine has 700k on it, remember I can run 100's of legal off the glass no problem,it when I 2 or more in doc feeder (which flips paper face down) where I have the issue all the time.

[vigour]

Re: Canon ir 5070 jams with legal in doc feeder only

you solved it long ago.
you just need to do the work
q- what area flips paper face down.
a- inverter roller
they wear down or get slippery, just like vertical rollers.
compare the size of old and new, you will see.

5000's did the same thing.
legal jamming, ripping, or wrinkling, when reversing.

run single to double off the glass, to get the feeder out of your head

[teckat]

Re: Canon ir 5070 jams with legal in doc feeder only

machine has 700k on it, remember I can run 100's of legal off the glass no problem,it when I 2 or more in doc feeder (which flips paper face down) where I have the issue all the time.

Replace the original width volume (VR1)

FM2-1024-000 -1 VARIABLE RESISTOR UNIT
or
#11----FM2-0696-000 -1 VOLUME HOLDER ASSEMBLY/ #11=this has VR1-Sensor & Gear
VR1.JPG

[pjdbm]

Re: Canon ir 5070 jams with legal in doc feeder only

you solved it long ago.
you just need to do the work
q- what area flips paper face down.
a- inverter roller
they wear down or get slippery, just like vertical rollers.
compare the size of old and new, you will see.

5000's did the same thing.
legal jamming, ripping, or wrinkling, when reversing.

run single to double off the glass, to get the feeder out of your head

I think you are on to something, this is what happen today:

I had another tech there today and it even baffled him, I joined him later and ruled out lower fuser roller bearings and roller. The jams happen on its way down and it appears to have a bend in the lead edge of legal paper as if you see when a picker finger does it mark.

But get this, we turned off all face down copying and printing and the machines is feeding flawless even in DUPLEX!

So it appears that this machine only jams on LEGAL paper when using the face down mode. I guess when the copier is set to face down it goes to a different part of inverter than doing duplex?? WFT?

[teckat]

Re: Canon ir 5070 jams with legal in doc feeder only

I think you are on to something, this is what happen today:

I had another tech there today and it even baffled him, I joined him later and ruled out lower fuser roller bearings and roller. The jams happen on its way down and it appears to have a bend in the lead edge of legal paper as if you see when a picker finger does it mark.

But get this, we turned off all face down copying and printing and the machines is feeding flawless even in DUPLEX!

So it appears that this machine only jams on LEGAL paper when using the face down mode. I guess when the copier is set to face down it goes to a different part of inverter than doing duplex?? WFT?

Why did u keep mentioning the Doc Feeder ?????

who do u work for in NYC ???