Why does opening and closing the door make the printer think toner has been added?

[Brian8506]

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The clock on the wall says it 3 o'clock.

[10871087]

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He has 160+ posts on this site and they all suck!

Gee, the low oil pressure light on my car just came on but the engine is still running. Those automotive engineers don't know shit.

[KenB]

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Once again, he posts a question to which he has already fornulated his own answer.

[jonezy999]

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Die hard inkjet bean counter.

[JustManuals]

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This putz just likes to argue.

[Ianizer]

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Hm. Well, if it's like you're all making out, we do have a solution on some of the other boards I post on...

[teckat]

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In my country (The United Kingdom) we would describe this guy as "a twat" I don't know if this phrase is known outside of the UK!?

Origin:1650-60
The word twat has various functions. It is a vulgar synonym for the human vulva, vagina, or clitoris,but is more widely used as a derogatory epithet, especially in British EnglishA derogatory insult, a pejorative meaning a fool, synonymous with the word twit -
'You are a real twat and a half' (often used in the UK)

[Ianizer]

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In my country (The United Kingdom) we would describe this guy as "a twat" I don't know if this phrase is known outside of the UK!?

Ah... It is, and it's vulgar.
-I

[kingpd@businessprints.net]

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When I was like 9 years old, my dad had a copier and I would take the toner out and bang it a few times when it said it was low...I know better now of course.

For the sake of the curious and future on-lookers I will answer some of aab1's curiosity.

It all depends on your machine about the low toner thing. There can be a low toner indicator and a completely out indicator. Typically when the toner light comes on the toner has gone below the toner sensor levels and you are essentially being put on notice that you need to order or put a new toner in. Machines that don't take an all in one cartridge have toner hoppers or reservoirs that are good for "x" amount of copies. It's a lot like your gas tank light coming on. It means, oh shit, I better stop for gas because I only have so many miles before I'm completely out.

Sometimes opening the door or restarting the machine can add a little bit of toner as this usually kicks the toner augers on during start-up. Keep in mind that the toner level sensors aren't 100% accurate. Some smaller machines (perhaps like your model) will have a computer chip built in with algorithms that try to tell how much toner is left based on what you've printed.

If you have a great deal of toner left, you are probably not replacing a chip when you are doing your refills. Some machines, like Lexmark can be refilled but always indicate a toner low or toner empty message because the chip still thinks it's empty and a new one wasn't installed.

If you're trying to print anywhere near the volume on this machine that you are your inkjet, then don't. You can ruin the machine, unless you can outfit it will a coolant system, it may burn out or catch on fire. Many higher volume machines have better fans and temperature regulators for the drums.

[teckat]

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post is from four months ago /
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[aab1]

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I do need to replace the chip on every single refill, in fact the printer always prevents me from printing completely even if there's lots of toner left just because of the chip. I was in fact shocked to see that by opening and closing the cartridge door each time it said "empty", I was able to DOUBLE the yield, for example if I printed 1500 pages before it said it was completely empty, I was able to get another 1500 of perfect print quality, and only by 1600-1700 prints after the "empty" warning did prints start to fade out.

This is nothing short of stealing half your customer's money, not to mention the absolutely absurd cost of $700 for cartridges that make a claimed 2800 prints. Needless to say, I never have and never will buy the $700 cartridges, I get compatibles for a still expensive $150.

With a business inkjet, you get about as many prints with genuine cartridges for about $100, not to mention HP business inkjets are designed to use the ink to the last drop. They are able to do this because the ink is in a bag in the cartridge, and it uses a piston and pump to pump the ink through 4 tubes to the printheads, so when the bag is empty, no ink is able to go fill the piston, so the piston stays "jammed" and can't suck any ink out of the cartridge. The printer detects when the piston is "jammed" and signals the cartridge is empty, and of course by this point not a single drop remains in the cartridge, guaranteeing 100% use of the ink you pay for, and it already costs about 5 times less per page than laser prints (assuming genuine cartridges in both cases, with refills you get the cost of inkjet to about1% the cost per page of laser).

[teckat]

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I do need to replace the chip on every single refill, in fact the printer always prevents me from printing completely even if there's lots of toner left just because of the chip. I was in fact shocked to see that by opening and closing the cartridge door each time it said "empty", I was able to DOUBLE the yield, for example if I printed 1500 pages before it said it was completely empty, I was able to get another 1500 of perfect print quality, and only by 1600-1700 prints after the "empty" warning did prints start to fade out.

This is nothing short of stealing half your customer's money, not to mention the absolutely absurd cost of $700 for cartridges that make a claimed 2800 prints. Needless to say, I never have and never will buy the $700 cartridges, I get compatibles for a still expensive $150.

With a business inkjet, you get about as many prints with genuine cartridges for about $100, not to mention HP business inkjets are designed to use the ink to the last drop. They are able to do this because the ink is in a bag in the cartridge, and it uses a piston and pump to pump the ink through 4 tubes to the printheads, so when the bag is empty, no ink is able to go fill the piston, so the piston stays "jammed" and can't suck any ink out of the cartridge. The printer detects when the piston is "jammed" and signals the cartridge is empty, and of course by this point not a single drop remains in the cartridge, guaranteeing 100% use of the ink you pay for, and it already costs about 5 times less per page than laser prints (assuming genuine cartridges in both cases, with refills you get the cost of inkjet to about1% the cost per page of laser).

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[kingpd@businessprints.net]

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Most companies have stopped using the "blow the fuse" system after so many pages. I think Xerox Phasers still do something like that though. There are some good reasons for doing it. I think it's not popular to do among manufacturers because Lexmark and some other companies used to make their inkjets not print after so many pages because of these chips. This was in the 1990's but what happened was some big class action lawsuits because customers could plainly see in the ink cartridges that there was a lot of ink left. Apparently, the algorithms didn't predict ink levels too good.

The major benefit of these "kill fuses" is that it makes it easier and predictable of when to replace parts for most office consumers. And also so you don't run out of ink during a print job.

The biggest p-i-t-a (primarily Xerox Phasers) is that they'll blow the fuse and stop printing in the middle of a print job. Had a few clients have their machines stop because they needed a color toner or drum and they didn't have an extra one while in the middle of printing.

[teckat]

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[jonezy999]

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