E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

[nivssluck]

Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

is the connector you speak of a small (about 6 inches) ribbon cable connector from serial PCB to controller board?

YES...

[copierpro]

Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

found one laying in the back on frame bottom when I opened this after my tech was messing with this machine. Let me go look at it I think I found my problem!

where is the serial board in relation to the controller board? below the controller board there is a larger board that is toward bottom of frame......is that the serial board?

[nivssluck]

Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

found one laying in the back on frame bottom when I opened this after my tech was messing with this machine. Let me go look at it I think I found my problem!

where is the serial board in relation to the controller board? below the controller board there is a larger board that is toward bottom of frame......is that the serial board?

At the back of the controller board...orange in color, i think the size is 2 x 2? im not sure...two screws with two white plastic lock what else? just check and let us know...

[copierpro]

Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

yes it is about two x two computer ribbon connector - happens to fit into HDD extra we have laying around same as one on machine now - don't need this cable for connecter J1026 on controller board because at J1026 the connector is a complete black plastic piece with female black plastic connector for male connectors on HDD.

at first I thought this 2 x 2 computer ribbon connector was for an old-style controller board or something. it is red-orange at top with an orange dot on connector marked for polarity.

I do know the three connectors (two white interlock and one smaller orange 2 (or 3?) pin connector the controller board plugs into are solidly connected. So juice is getting to controller board.


I looked closely at J1026 on controller board and this HDD does not connect with a ribbon cable as designed on this controller board. What I found laying at bottom of frame was a small computer ribbon cable about 2 x 2 though. So I guess this controller board was changed out at some point making this 2 x 2 cable obsolete.

[nivssluck]

Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

I looked closely at J1026 on controller board and this HDD does not connect with a ribbon cable as designed on this controller board. What I found laying at bottom of frame was a small computer ribbon cable about 2 x 2 though. So I guess this controller board was changed out at some point making this 2 x 2 cable obsolete.

I noticed some of my 7105 machines, the HDD is connected with flat cable as what you've said. Some has small board attached to the metal case. But if i want to change the HDD and format it, I connect the HDD directly to the socket (some with flat cable and some hasnt). How many HDD already you've tried? In my case am using flash drive to format with no problem at all...

[copierpro]

Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

our hard drives connect directly without a cable that is correct. I have tried two HDD from used pulls that we got from a dealer. Don't have a flash drive we are connecting directly via Visat laptop ver 5.42Ec SST w/crossover cable.

I ordered a blank Toshiba MHV2040AH New and will try that - it could be these two used HDD were never even tested.

[teckat]

Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

our hard drives connect directly without a cable that is correct. I have tried two HDD from used pulls that we got from a dealer. Don't have a flash drive we are connecting directly via Visat laptop ver 5.42Ec SST w/crossover cable.

I ordered a blank Toshiba MHV2040AH New and will try that - it could be these two used HDD were never even tested.

the Hard Drive needs to be inside the iR7105 to Format it
u do not connect any cables to the HDD


this is so simple an operation/ your making it a major project/

everything has already been explained over and over

[copierpro]

Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

tec - the hard drive, of course, is in the ir7095 when we try to install firmaware and get the HDD initialization (format) screen - whether we click yes to new HDD installed or no we get an SST error code, repsectively, e240 and e221 if we answer no the new HDD as I recall.

what you are missing is that when we go into download mode on copier the reason for replacing the hard drive to begin with appears "E0602-0001" then the "Download Mode" message appears above the copier error code.

so the new used HDD pulls we bought form another dealer are not working. Replaced the main controller board. All connections to main controller are solid. Changed dram no go to removing E0602-0001; replaced boot rom no go to removing E602-0001; swapped out controller board no go for removing E0602-0001.

bottom line the ir7095 is not seeing the HDD. I have noticed an open three pin connector at top left of controller board to the right of the two pin white connector in place. I am going to see if that connector that is missing is the issue. I don't have another 7095 or 7105 to look at but in the end it is problem open for an option connection so I doubt that is the issue.

All leds are on on the controller board - including the red led next to boot rom so the board is getting electrical current.

[teckat]

Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

I will say this once more>

those boards have nothing to do with E602

throw those HDD's u got from other source into the garbage

E221 ???? Never seen or heard of a E221 on this model

U need to stop the experiments and get to the basics

u now say your working on a 7095 ?
what happened to 7105 ?

hope u know Main pcb's are different between 7105 & 7095

[copierpro]

Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

Yes I know the boards are different ir7105 and 7095 - from the standpoint of firmware they are the same which is what I am concerned with herein.

The SST throws off the E240 disregard mention of an E221

[copierpro]

Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

Well, just popped in a new blank Toshiba HDD and same thing - E0602-0001 error on display. I think now I know why my tech said screw this machine!

[teckat]

Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

Well, just popped in a new blank Toshiba HDD and same thing - E0602-0001 error on display. I think now I know why my tech said screw this machine!

that's Normal
that always happens when u put in a new HDD that has not been FORMATTED with the SST

dis-regard / and follow the steps to Format/
if that will not work , u are doing something wrong, u have corrupt firmware, or SST needs to be UN-installed/re-installed /

hope u have only one ver. of SST on your laptop / it will only function that way

[copierpro]

Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

OK I will connect crossover while leaving SST closed and power up 2+8 enter download mode. We have deinstalled and reinstalled SST a few times makes no difference. We only have one version of SST on this laptop.

However, I know when I do power up and go into download mode the E0602-0001 will still be on copier display. If the copier cannot see the HDD how can the SST?

Giving it the old college I installed thew brand new Toshiba HDD with no system software/firmware loaded on it. I go to your Part 1 suggestion "When installing system software on imageRUNNER 7086/7095 et al. printer copiers lower than v50.55 (I am using a 50.37 boot rom) follow these steps":

Crossover to laptop connected and SST off. Power up copier 2+8 download mode. Open SST v 4.52Ec check special box. Select ir7105--->Single to install special boot rom 10.99. 10.99 is there I checked the folder but I again get "did you replace HDD --->Yes did you replace HHD encryption board "yes" ---->E240 SST error. (if for the heck of it I answer no to encryption just to see what happens I get the same message "Serious failure occurred in HDD and initialization......" (see below)

Since as per above trying to install firmawre on a brand new HDD did not work, I put the hard drive with firmware on it back in copier. Using your suggestion in Part 2, do not open SST program and power up 2+8 downaload mode (E0602-0001 still visible on copier display) then open SST program. I select it7105--->Single--> then box comes up "Did you install new HDD" since this HDD has firmware on it I select "no" ---> Did you replace HDD encryption board" ---> No then message pops up "Serious failure occured on HDD and initialization of the HDD is necessary. Initialization clears all the data in the HDD but the data cannot be taken out from HDD. Before initializing HDD get consensus from customer."

I will deinstall then reinstall SST in the meantime and try again form the top with brand new HDD with firmware loaded to see if that helps.

I appreciate your time tec.

[teckat]

Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

U never told me u had an Encryption Board installed/

that is another issue to deal with first/ will follow up on this

remember once that BOOT rom has been flashed to 50.37 there is no going back

[copierpro]

Re: E240 SST 452Ec ir7105

Ok thanks - I don't care about the 50.37 no going back so long as the copier puts a nice clean black mark on the paper.