Canon Image ADV C5030

[KM7155]

Hi guys,

anyone face the print out colour not same with the colour show on the computer screen?

any help is much appreciated.

[charm5496]

Re: Canon Image ADV C5030

you cannot compare a monitor to the ouptut on the paper. two totally different types of images and if that screen has not been calibrated how can your copier match it?

Have you run the auto gradation and done your color check on the copier? this should be done daily by the customer!!!
if it has an imagepass did you calibrate it?
what type of program are they printing from?
can you compare the output to another device possibly at your office?
is the print driver and application they are using setup and configured properly?

[KM7155]

Re: Canon Image ADV C5030

you cannot compare a monitor to the ouptut on the paper. two totally different types of images and if that screen has not been calibrated how can your copier match it?

Have you run the auto gradation and done your color check on the copier? this should be done daily by the customer!!!
if it has an imagepass did you calibrate it?
what type of program are they printing from?
can you compare the output to another device possibly at your office?
is the print driver and application they are using setup and configured properly?

Hi, thanks for the reply.
i must say that am quite new to the Canon machine. i'm a KM engineer.
this Canon machine is brand new and is setup by Canon engineer.
and i assume that this machine is properly setup.
when i try to print at KM machine, the colour is exactly what i see from the computer screen.
they are using the irfanview to view the image and print thru the application.
may i know how to run the auto gradation and color check on the C5035.

[teckat]

Re: Canon Image ADV C5030

Hi, thanks for the reply. i must say that am quite new to the Canon machine. i'm a KM engineer. this Canon machine is brand new and is setup by Canon engineer. and i assume that this machine is properly setup. when i try to print at KM machine, the colour is exactly what i see from the computer screen. they are using the irfanview to view the image and print thru the application. may i know how to run the auto gradation and color check on the C5035.

READ>>>both pdf's
iRADVANCE C Series-How to Adjust CMYK Density for PDL Output.pdf

[KM7155]

Re: Canon Image ADV C5030

READ>>>both pdf's
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thanks for the pdf file.
any idea why i can't locate the "Printer" icon in the main menu?
i want to print the printer config page, but i can't find the printer icon.

[Tricky]

Re: Canon Image ADV C5030

thanks for the pdf file.
any idea why i can't locate the "Printer" icon in the main menu?
i want to print the printer config page, but i can't find the printer icon.

Does it have this fixed to the back of the machine?
This is what gives you the printer icon in the main menu



If not you can get a config page by going to additional functions / preferences / network / output report.

[KM7155]

Re: Canon Image ADV C5030

Does it have this fixed to the back of the machine?
This is what gives you the printer icon in the main menu



If not you can get a config page by going to additional functions / preferences / network / output report.

no wonder i can't find the printer icon, my C5035 only using the standard controller.
honestly, how u rate this machine?
KM machine don't have the color printing issue.

[blackcat4866]

Re: Canon Image ADV C5030

Just to throw a monkey wrench into this discussion:

Your monitor is additive color (RGB). The printer uses subtractive color (CMYK). The difference is that additive color is a light source, and subtractive color reflects light.

When someone invents electric light producing paper, your monitor can look exactly like your print. In the meantime, it's a conversion, a compromise. Subtractive color has a much smaller color gamut than additive color, meaning that it can produce less colors with the print process.

There are color profiles available to adjust the output of your monitor to more closely match the output of your printer. Again, the monitor is still additive color and the print is still subtractive color. Additive color (your monitor) will always be brighter and bolder because it is a light source. Subtractive color (print process) is not a light source, it reflects existing light, so it will not be as bright.

You're comparing apples and oranges. =^..^=

[KM7155]

Re: Canon Image ADV C5030

Just to throw a monkey wrench into this discussion:

Your monitor is additive color (RGB). The printer uses subtractive color (CMYK). The difference is that additive color is a light source, and subtractive color reflects light.

When someone invents electric light producing paper, your monitor can look exactly like your print. In the meantime, it's a conversion, a compromise. Subtractive color has a much smaller color gamut than additive color, meaning that it can produce less colors with the print process.

There are color profiles available to adjust the output of your monitor to more closely match the output of your printer. Again, the monitor is still additive color and the print is still subtractive color. Additive color (your monitor) will always be brighter and bolder because it is a light source. Subtractive color (print process) is not a light source, it reflects existing light, so it will not be as bright.

You're comparing apples and oranges. =^..^=

Hi, the different is really unacceptable, my image at computer is green, but the output is in copper color. i do understand we cannot get the exact color as the screen, but not with the different color output. if possible i will upload the image and the print out to u all.

[KL568]

Re: Canon Image ADV C5030

Hi, the different is really unacceptable, my image at computer is green, but the output is in copper color. i do understand we cannot get the exact color as the screen, but not with the different color output. if possible i will upload the image and the print out to u all.

Hi, KM7155

Since you have rule out the "piggyback" printer, that means you only left with printer drivers of UFRII / PCL / PS3. Do let all know which driver you are using for your copier?

[blackcat4866]

Re: Canon Image ADV C5030

Hi, the different is really unacceptable, my image at computer is green, but the output is in copper color. i do understand we cannot get the exact color as the screen, but not with the different color output. if possible i will upload the image and the print out to u all.

"unacceptable" just sounds like whining to me.
I'm quite entertained when someone tells me that something is unacceptable, but isn't offering any solutions. I guess you'd better get started on inventing that electric lighted paper.

A more practical approach would be for you to gather a few tools.
Firstly, download a little utility caller ColorPic: ColorPic, The Desktop ColorPicker Software
With ColorPic you can identify the desired color in any displayed electronic document by RGB or CMYK numbers. For comparison purposes I prefer RGB numbers.

Secondly, you'll need to purchase a Pantone Color Matching Set: Pantone - CMYK Coated & Uncoated
With these color swatches you can identify the RGB or CMYK numbers of the resulting printed images.

With these two tools, you can determine if the printer is printing the desired color, regardless of the color performance of your monitor.
Color calibrate the printer first. Now use the CMYK numbers to identify the differences in the images. In the driver you can attempt to manipulate the image by the specific colors to produce the same RGB/CMYK output.

You can calibrate the color output of your monitor, but it's certainly not cheap. Here's some reading on the topic: Monitor Calibration and Profiling

=^..^=

[KM7155]

Re: Canon Image ADV C5030

Hi, KM7155

Since you have rule out the "piggyback" printer, that means you only left with printer drivers of UFRII / PCL / PS3. Do let all know which driver you are using for your copier?

hi, im using the UFRII driver.

[vigour]

Re: Canon Image ADV C5030

You need to do AutoGradation.
settings/registration > adjustment/maintenamnce >adjust image quality > auto adjust gradation > select the papertype to be used >FULL ADJUST.

Actually you should choose auto correct colour mismatch first, then do image quality adjust

[teckat]

Re: Canon Image ADV C5030

without a fiery connected u are limited in calibration methods


if u need perfect color ,
buy a imagePress6000/7000 series model & not a business color advanced model

[KL568]

Re: Canon Image ADV C5030

hi, im using the UFRII driver.

Guess you have limited resources with that driver, but no harm performing AutoGrad. You could also go over some settings offered with UFRII, under "Quality" tab -> "Advanced settings" button. A word of advise, be prepare to spend some hours tweaking them.