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  • fornerm
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Apr 2010
    • 82

    #1

    IR4570 Shadow upper right Corner

    Hello,
    the Problem is on IR4570 on Single Copy oder more on A4.
    I Change Paper Typ, DV Unit, Laser Unit, its the same.
    See the Example. It is on the Paper before the Paper go in Fixing Unit.
    The Shadow is on the upper right Corner, even then i print a Testpage from
    Service Menu.
    Look the Atachment.


    Have anybody a Idea ?
    Thanks a lot.
  • Cabo
    Technician
    • Aug 2012
    • 41

    #2
    Re: IR4570 Shadow upper right Corner

    Try to clean led array

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    • r3d343420
      Technician

      50+ Posts
      • Aug 2012
      • 55

      #3
      Re: IR4570 Shadow upper right Corner

      Does the defect appear on the drum when you do an emergency stop? is everything clean inside the right door?

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      • Canon.Tech
        Trusted Tech
        • Mar 2009
        • 335

        #4
        Re: IR4570 Shadow upper right Corner

        Have you tried a new drum unit (Canon) & are you using genuine Canon toner?

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        • mramlawi
          Senior Tech

          500+ Posts
          • Jul 2011
          • 838

          #5
          Re: IR4570 Shadow upper right Corner

          change a new drum , or check the cylander
          Distinguished road makes you jewel in rough

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          • fornerm
            Technician

            50+ Posts
            • Apr 2010
            • 82

            #6
            Re: IR4570 Shadow upper right Corner

            Hello all,
            thanks for answer. LED Arry is clean and i change for test. Drum is change too, Toner is canon org.
            all is clean.
            the latete picture on drum unit is ok, no Shadow; Now the Picture on Paper before fixing is ok.

            after further troubleshooting, i can say.......
            The error occurs when the paper is between the drum and Fixing Unit or before it in the fixing is running.
            something like that, maybe a Guide Problem..?
            the image is blurred ?.
            but I do not know what I can do about it

            Something Ideas ?

            regards

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            • Mina Banoub
              Technician
              • May 2011
              • 50

              #7
              Re: IR4570 Shadow upper right Corner

              Originally posted by fornerm
              Hello all,
              thanks for answer. LED Arry is clean and i change for test. Drum is change too, Toner is canon org.
              all is clean.
              the latete picture on drum unit is ok, no Shadow; Now the Picture on Paper before fixing is ok.

              after further troubleshooting, i can say.......
              The error occurs when the paper is between the drum and Fixing Unit or before it in the fixing is running.
              something like that, maybe a Guide Problem..?
              the image is blurred ?.
              but I do not know what I can do about it

              Something Ideas ?

              regards
              Replace the fixing film Ass`y

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              • fornerm
                Technician

                50+ Posts
                • Apr 2010
                • 82

                #8
                Re: IR4570 Shadow upper right Corner

                yo, i replaced the complete Fixing Assy. And ? The Same..

                Does anyone have the possibility to search for technical information at Canon ?

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                • Dan Dryer
                  Technician

                  50+ Posts
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 57

                  #9
                  Re: IR4570 Shadow upper right Corner

                  Check the condition of the Static Eliminator. If there's any damage or paper fragments stuck there, it can cause this type of toner scattering or blurring at the lead edge.

                  There's also a setting in service mode COPIER>OPTION>BODY>FIX-SMR which changes the Dev bias and may help with this issue.

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                  • Eric1962

                    #10
                    Re: IR4570 Shadow upper right Corner

                    It is possible that this is the position of the side door is not correctly positioned

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                    • fornerm
                      Technician

                      50+ Posts
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 82

                      #11
                      Re: IR4570 Shadow upper right Corner

                      to Dan Dryer:
                      Sounds good, I'll try it......

                      to Eric1962: I too have thought, but could find nothing ..............

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                      • tinnyjay
                        Senior Tech

                        500+ Posts
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 663

                        #12
                        Re: IR4570 Shadow upper right Corner

                        Originally posted by fornerm
                        Hello,
                        the Problem is on IR4570 on Single Copy oder more on A4.
                        I Change Paper Typ, DV Unit, Laser Unit, its the same.
                        See the Example. It is on the Paper before the Paper go in Fixing Unit.
                        The Shadow is on the upper right Corner, even then i print a Testpage from
                        Service Menu.
                        Look the Atachment.
                        [ATTACH]17360[/ATTACH]

                        Have anybody a Idea ?
                        Thanks a lot.
                        First you make a print and see if the problem is the same like copying.
                        I dont want to debate,but it looks like you are "cheating" us,because drum,developer unit,bad toner,cleaning blade,coronas doesnt cause this problem.
                        Is the same dirty image in the same place of paper!!!!
                        If this problem is real,you must check up scanner components.
                        Clean the glass of copier and lens and it will be ok.

                        PS A bad motherboard could also cause this!
                        "Who loves the roses,must also bear thumbs"

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                        • jake24482
                          Trusted Tech
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 116

                          #13
                          Re: IR4570 Shadow upper right Corner

                          check the side door position make sure every thing is OK on door assembly. I think the problem in in door assembly.I had a same problem and replace every thing like drum ,DV,fixing assembly .That did not take care of the problem door did

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                          • arielcanon
                            Trusted Tech

                            100+ Posts
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 106

                            #14
                            Re: IR4570 Shadow upper right Corner

                            Originally posted by tinnyjay
                            First you make a print and see if the problem is the same like copying.
                            I dont want to debate,but it looks like you are "cheating" us,because drum,developer unit,bad toner,cleaning blade,coronas doesnt cause this problem.
                            Is the same dirty image in the same place of paper!!!!
                            If this problem is real,you must check up scanner components.
                            Clean the glass of copier and lens and it will be ok.

                            PS A bad motherboard could also cause this!
                            Let's think positive, no problem, just see what happen next..., we have many experience people here..
                            poster already said > The Shadow is on the upper right Corner, even then i print a Testpage from
                            Service Menu.
                            means thats process is problem (without using scanner)
                            Learning never ends..
                            Never give up, where there is a wheel there is a way..

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                            • fornerm
                              Technician

                              50+ Posts
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 82

                              #15
                              Re: IR4570 Shadow upper right Corner

                              Update to Dan Dryer:
                              i tested Fix_SMR several Week, Problem could not be resolved and is still current.


                              Maybe I'll try the door yet. I think not, but anything is possible

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