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  • mido
    Trusted Tech
    • Nov 2011
    • 177

    #16
    Re: IR 2020 error change paper size

    Originally posted by teckat
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    manual feed paper does not ARC at Reg roller/timing different from cassette pick-up-

    change paper size message > is after copying
    Cassette Paper sizes are determined by the combinations of the Size Detection Assy switches pushed by the paper size lever./ when tray is pushed in> if tray (lock in place_ jumps out during pic-up miss-read of size takes place> with no jam code > just message

    Intermittently the machine will display " change paper size message ".
    From bypass machine runs with no issues.
    Was a new cassette tried .

    Could be a defective Size Detection Assy. { FM2-3319-000 }
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    make sure the Registration Clutch, is in place

    Check for a misaligned Cassette Position Block (lock in place)

    hi,
    • I tried to add extra wrap to the spring of the registration sensor but when paper touch the flag, the spring drop from its position.
    • I checked the cassette and locked in its place very well.
    • Now the message appears even when copying from bypass tray, also from two cassettes.
    • I changed the registration clutch, but the problem not solved,
    • I checked the size detection assy, all switches pushed correctly.



    pls if you have any comments reply me.

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    • mido
      Trusted Tech
      • Nov 2011
      • 177

      #17
      Re: IR 2020 error change paper size

      Originally posted by Rachid.Akli
      Hi to all,

      iR2020is a two cassettes machine. The issue is common to both cassettes, then, there is a very small probability that the issue is due to a pick up problem. I advise to clean or change the vertical feeding roller.

      Rachid.

      [ATTACH]17971[/ATTACH]
      hi,
      I cleaned the vertical feeding roller, but same problem,

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      • mido
        Trusted Tech
        • Nov 2011
        • 177

        #18
        Re: IR 2020 error change paper size

        Originally posted by Kings
        Do you find that the display displays the correct paper size and when making an A3 copy it jams.
        If so it is definatly the reg sensor flag.
        If it is displaying the correct size paper on the display, surely that rules out size identification.
        Every time ive had this problem (about 10 times) the bypass works fine and when copying from either cassette
        it shows change paper size.

        How many copies has the machine done?
        hi,
        * the display shows the correct paper size.
        * both cassettes A4 & A3 message appears change paper size,
        * the counter of the machine is 226311 copies.

        thnx

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        • MK.
          Technician
          • Oct 2012
          • 14

          #19
          Re: IR 2020 error change paper size

          Check the jam history report.

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          • Kings
            Steve@Kings

            50+ Posts
            • Nov 2009
            • 79

            #20
            Re: IR 2020 error change paper size

            Originally posted by mido
            hi,
            • I tried to add extra wrap to the spring of the registration sensor but when paper touch the flag, the spring drop from its position.
            • I checked the cassette and locked in its place very well.
            • Now the message appears even when copying from bypass tray, also from two cassettes.
            • I changed the registration clutch, but the problem not solved,
            • I checked the size detection assy, all switches pushed correctly.



            pls if you have any comments reply me.
            Extend the lenght of the sensor....WORN TIP....... not the spring.

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            • teckat
              Field Supervisor

              Site Contributor
              10,000+ Posts
              • Jan 2010
              • 16083

              #21
              Re: IR 2020 error change paper size

              GEAR CHANGE see pdf's pics
              [1-a] 27T/50T gear A Six teeth added in the gear
              [1-b] 33T/50T gear B Changed to concavo-convex shape
              [2-a] 29T gear (old type) C Changed to concavo-convex shape
              [2-b] 29T gear (new type)


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              READ PDF's below
              there are two that address issue--
              Attached Files
              Last edited by teckat; 11-02-2012, 04:14 PM.
              **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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              • Kings
                Steve@Kings

                50+ Posts
                • Nov 2009
                • 79

                #22
                Re: IR 2020 error change paper size

                The vertical feed rollers have been cleaned so this should iradicate the symptoms of the gear problem.
                The machine has done 200k
                Change the flag or extend slightly and I bet that there would be a post saying all working correctly.

                Had this problem loads of times.

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                • teckat
                  Field Supervisor

                  Site Contributor
                  10,000+ Posts
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 16083

                  #23
                  Re: IR 2020 error change paper size

                  Originally posted by Kings
                  The vertical feed rollers have been cleaned so this should iradicate the symptoms of the gear problem.
                  The machine has done 200k
                  Change the flag or extend slightly and I bet that there would be a post saying all working correctly.

                  Had this problem loads of times.



                  clean rollers do not mean gears were changed ?
                  **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                  • Kings
                    Steve@Kings

                    50+ Posts
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 79

                    #24
                    Re: IR 2020 error change paper size

                    Originally posted by teckat
                    clean rollers do not mean gears were changed ?
                    Im not saying dont change the gears, yes change these to get rid of the problem of jamming when the vertical feed rollers get dirty.
                    With clean rollers the original gears should work fine unless the rollers them selves are so worn that its that that is causing the problem. I doubt it.
                    The way I tell the difference between the two problems, apart from looking and seeing the tip of the actuator rounded off, is to clean the rollers and if it still is a problem then I find the actuator is the problem.

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                    • rado_hristov

                      #25
                      Re: IR 2020 error change paper size

                      Originally posted by mido
                      I have a problem in IR 2020, message appears change paper size, while copying from two cassettes and A4 or A4R.
                      when copying from bypass tray, it works normally any quantity without any problem,
                      I replace the registration clutch, paper pick up, feed and seperation roller but the problem still showing message change paper size,

                      Regards to all
                      thnx
                      Hi ,
                      you will just a clean paper pick up roller ( FB4-9817 I think is the part number ) & replace it . If you will not sucssed you have to replace whole paper pick up assembly .

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                      • Kings
                        Steve@Kings

                        50+ Posts
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 79

                        #26
                        Re: IR 2020 error change paper size

                        Originally posted by rado_hristov
                        Hi ,
                        you will just a clean paper pick up roller ( FB4-9817 I think is the part number ) & replace it . If you will not sucssed you have to replace whole paper pick up assembly .
                        WHAT THE #@?;.... UH

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