Printhead in Canon IPF605 problem and firmware 1.01

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  • archiforma
    Technician
    • Aug 2013
    • 33

    #31
    Re: Printhead in Canon IPF605 problem and firmware 1.01

    Originally posted by V-P
    I do understand your exaltation... but be aware of one thing:

    what you did is cheat the printer to think that all the nozzles are firing correctly and the print-head is fine.

    Do you think Canon invented this protective measure just to get more money out of their customers ???

    Did you ever think of what will happen to the main board if the nozzles of the head are blocked and everything get overheated ?

    The answer is easy....

    " PUUUFFFF"

    FOR VP

    Please stop your comments as your posts were useless im afraid from beginning !!! I spend a lot of time for cleaning printhead, spend a lot of ink, use mostly maintenatce Cartidge - nothing helps !!!


    If you has the same problem , if you trying first cleaning printhead , do it only ones, as the more is lost the time if not helped.


    Only the solution I've done is working , I mean wakeing the printer to live, at the moment I do know how long I will be able to using this printhead or printer, but as ive promised you'll be informed weekly basis ..

    If the printer will overheat, its happened, before that printhead were ALREADY DEAD !!! so can you imagine the DEAD PERSON who are able to wake up and live with us ???? even if it will be a month a few or who know it could be much more even a years !!!!! YEEEEEs




    Regards

    CANON customer who are NOT AGREE with CANON IDEA and SOLUTION which are NOT IN LINE WITH LAW !!!!!!!!!!

    I will be in touch

    John

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    • V-P
      Senior Tech

      Site Contributor
      500+ Posts
      • Apr 2011
      • 679

      #32
      Re: Printhead in Canon IPF605 problem and firmware 1.01

      I see this thread is getting a strange deviance.... so let me explain:

      I am not part of the Canon group, so I am not defending the flag or smth.

      I don't see why you took my advice in a negative way. In the end all I did was "warn you of what it might happen if you cheat the printer"

      You came to this forum for advice I presume.... so why are you so jumpy ?

      To answer your question about absence of earlier versions of firmware
      (this is the way I see it - not necessarily Canon way) :

      Each new version comes up with modifications and improvements for a certain device. A lot of technicians in the field report back what issues they were having and all of this is than reflected in a new firmware version. There is no point of having the older version as the new one is better and improved.
      I never heard anyone complain about copier firmware.

      Keep in mind one thing :
      No one is paying me or other members here to read your post and give you advice. All of this is done in good will !

      So I would be more respectful...

      But that is just my opinion

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      • archiforma
        Technician
        • Aug 2013
        • 33

        #33
        Re: Printhead in Canon IPF605 problem and firmware 1.01

        Originally posted by V-P
        I see this thread is getting a strange deviance.... so let me explain:

        I am not part of the Canon group, so I am not defending the flag or smth.

        I don't see why you took my advice in a negative way. In the end all I did was "warn you of what it might happen if you cheat the printer"

        You came to this forum for advice I presume.... so why are you so jumpy ?

        To answer your question about absence of earlier versions of firmware
        (this is the way I see it - not necessarily Canon way) :

        Each new version comes up with modifications and improvements for a certain device. A lot of technicians in the field report back what issues they were having and all of this is than reflected in a new firmware version. There is no point of having the older version as the new one is better and improved.
        I never heard anyone complain about copier firmware.

        Keep in mind one thing :
        No one is paying me or other members here to read your post and give you advice. All of this is done in good will !

        So I would be more respectful...

        But that is just my opinion
        Thants fine, you have right. But have a look for your first post below: (your reply was first)


        Going backwards like you plan to do - will often fry an egg on top of the main board.

        Have you ever wandered why Canon bothers with the new firmware series ???

        I would replace the head and keep printing.

        but that is just my opinion...

        you see that you have not been able to help me or the similar people has the problem like me
        You replyed me in a minute that is not worth to do it, its better to but new printhead (which cost over $500) and carry on printing - thank you for it, I woudl say that this is not at all the help I been looking for.

        Before Ive deceided to open this form ive been reading a lot about the printhead problem, Ive been speaking with USA Canon service, Europe Canon Service , Poland Canon Service, london Canon service, and people from China as well

        The all of them were did reply (I mean form CANON direct) exactly AS YOU.

        Can you imagine , that you are architect, selfemployed, who are counting every dolar, who are on the finish project and need to print immiedetaly the design on time, and sadly you see that your brilliant Canon ploter can not print in normal mode as there is some error with printhead ,,,, sic, you are not able to carry on , you have no money at all as you wll ern some money when the whole project will be done on time, and now you cant print

        In my position, I could not find the money for a brand new printhead, in addition it will take a few days, in addition YOU CANT install is as you need to sped a extra $100
        for a special technican form Canon who is anly able to do it for you - whay - warranty 12 months only after instalation by specialist !

        So please do not tel me what is better for me , I have printer after warranty, so , as usually with HP printer such as 6280, 7280, Brother MFC 6510, 6910dw we been all the time useing the printer untill the technical end,
        but some of them such as HP C6180 has printed over 25 000 pages , the ink is from bottle all the time, and the is no problem with printhead or printer itself - the printers are 5-6 years old.

        So, if you were me, if you did spend a $1500 for a brand new printer in the above personal circumstances, did you been trying to do the same as me ? or you did as mention in the FIRST POST REPLY (above in red) ??

        I would wish a lot of money form me, that i could to buy brand new printhead (or any other thinks) in 6 months interval for a $500+$100 inst, then I would be happy of course as I would not care for the money at all ....

        But this is the wish , will not happend Im affraid, and please have a look for a whole post ones again ....



        By the way,

        Everythink is doesn't care Im affraid, as maybe you already know, that Sun Pole redirection is in due in 3-4 months (11 years interval) which can indicate for the electric stuff or the whole earth ............


        See you soon
        Last edited by archiforma; 08-30-2013, 05:53 PM.

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        • V-P
          Senior Tech

          Site Contributor
          500+ Posts
          • Apr 2011
          • 679

          #34
          Re: Printhead in Canon IPF605 problem and firmware 1.01

          Right now I feel so bad I replied to your thread...

          The fact that you don't like the answer does not mean the answer is not correct.

          and by this statement I am done with this thread...

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          • SCREWTAPE
            East Coast Imaging

            Site Contributor
            2,500+ Posts
            • Jan 2009
            • 3396

            #35
            Re: Printhead in Canon IPF605 problem and firmware 1.01

            Hey don't mean to interrupt. These print heads are expensive. If you do ever need one I sell them. I will be willing to help.

            Regards

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            • SCREWTAPE
              East Coast Imaging

              Site Contributor
              2,500+ Posts
              • Jan 2009
              • 3396

              #36
              Re: Printhead in Canon IPF605 problem and firmware 1.01

              Originally posted by SCREWTAPE
              Hey don't mean to interrupt. These print heads are expensive. If you do ever need one I sell them. I will be willing to help.

              Regards
              Never mind your in London

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              • archiforma
                Technician
                • Aug 2013
                • 33

                #37
                Re: Printhead in Canon IPF605 problem and firmware 1.01

                Originally posted by SCREWTAPE
                Hey don't mean to interrupt. These print heads are expensive. If you do ever need one I sell them. I will be willing to help. Regards
                Thanks.

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                • paccome

                  #38
                  Re: Printhead in Canon IPF605 problem and firmware 1.01

                  Originally posted by alexctx
                  do all in service modeobstructs correct.and follow the steps.low first version to 1.06.if not bullets sirbe the procedure.delete so here in peru.[ATTACH=CONFIG]21878[/ATTACH]do all in service modebecause here the head is $ 780. the client uses it to the end
                  HiThe image is lost, somebody could help me. I have de 1.03 firmware at IPF605. I clean the printhead with special alcohol and it works fine in service mode.Thanks so much from Spain.

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                  • IkeW0491
                    Trusted Tech

                    100+ Posts
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 172

                    #39
                    Re: Printhead in Canon IPF605 problem and firmware 1.01

                    So basically Archiforma,

                    Canon is saying that their Firmware Upgrade from 1.01 to 1.02 was a way to "POSSIBLY" keep the printhead working until it got so clogged that it will no longer work.

                    Since your machine is stating that it needs printhead replaced, it is probably PAST the usable life.

                    How many prints does this plotter have?

                    Just because its only 1 year old, does not mean that it could not need a new printhead.

                    If you run enough prints through it and the head is used up, it will eventually need replaced just from use.

                    I would try the trick recommened about using Alchohol & if that does not fix it, I would suggest you just replace the print head.

                    You said your out of ink too???

                    Sounds like Your using a lot of ink, IE doing a BUNCH of print jobs. That's just the nature of the beast, the more U use it the more it will need stuff replaced/ fixed.

                    IKE

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                    • archiforma
                      Technician
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 33

                      #40
                      Re: Printhead in Canon IPF605 problem and firmware 1.01

                      Originally posted by IkeW0491
                      So basically Archiforma,

                      Canon is saying that their Firmware Upgrade from 1.01 to 1.02 was a way to "POSSIBLY" keep the printhead working until it got so clogged that it will no longer work.

                      Since your machine is stating that it needs printhead replaced, it is probably PAST the usable life.

                      How many prints does this plotter have?

                      Just because its only 1 year old, does not mean that it could not need a new printhead.

                      If you run enough prints through it and the head is used up, it will eventually need replaced just from use.

                      I would try the trick recommened about using Alchohol & if that does not fix it, I would suggest you just replace the print head.

                      You said your out of ink too???

                      Sounds like Your using a lot of ink, IE doing a BUNCH of print jobs. That's just the nature of the beast, the more U use it the more it will need stuff replaced/ fixed.

                      IKE


                      So, the useing printhead untill the end did KILL the priner ,

                      ipf 605 close upper cover.jpg

                      Probalby HEAD RELAY PCB is fault , but not sure.



                      SUGEStions welcome


                      John

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                      • outhead
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 8

                        #41
                        Re: Printhead in Canon IPF605 problem and firmware 1.01

                        Hi to all!
                        As I see in the attached photo, You've the problem with the upper-cover sensor only, isn't it?
                        If it is so, all is not so bad - this sensor may be turned off in the service mode.
                        Best regards.

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                        • archiforma
                          Technician
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 33

                          #42
                          Re: Printhead in Canon IPF605 problem and firmware 1.01

                          Originally posted by outhead
                          Hi to all!
                          As I see in the attached photo, You've the problem with the upper-cover sensor only, isn't it?
                          If it is so, all is not so bad - this sensor may be turned off in the service mode.
                          Best regards.


                          Thanks for info

                          Well, the sensos is ok, the printer can't turn in service mode.
                          But , can you tell me how the sensor can be turn off in service mode?

                          Regards

                          John

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                          • outhead
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 8

                            #43
                            Re: Printhead in Canon IPF605 problem and firmware 1.01

                            1.Turn off your printer.
                            2.Push the "Feeder Selection" & "Information" buttons together with the "Power" button.
                            3.Menu=>service mode=>display=>i/o display 1=> in the eights position (number) change "1" (sensor on) to "0" (sensor off), then escape to the main window.
                            4.Reboot plotter in the normal mode.
                            This operation has described better in the service manual.
                            Best regards, Alex.

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                            • archiforma
                              Technician
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 33

                              #44
                              Re: Printhead in Canon IPF605 problem and firmware 1.01

                              Originally posted by outhead
                              1.Turn off your printer.
                              2.Push the "Feeder Selection" & "Information" buttons together with the "Power" button.
                              3.Menu=>service mode=>display=>i/o display 1=> in the eights position (number) change "1" (sensor on) to "0" (sensor off), then escape to the main window.
                              4.Reboot plotter in the normal mode.
                              This operation has described better in the service manual.
                              Best regards, Alex.

                              Thanks , but the above did'nt work. Still the same error/info - Close upper Cover''
                              The is no change to turn printer in service mode

                              Any idea?

                              Regards

                              John

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                              • outhead
                                Junior Member
                                • Apr 2014
                                • 8

                                #45
                                Re: Printhead in Canon IPF605 problem and firmware 1.01

                                If the sensors is ok, probably your problem is in PSU, otherwise the problem is in PCB.
                                Best regards.

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