[Misc] Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

[tpant]

I have a Canon Imagepress C6000 witch appears to be working perfectly. The problem is when running large black and white jobs my CMY toner level keep going down. I seems that the toner is being ran directly into the waste toner bottle. I am selecting greyscale in the Fiery rip. The counters also show that I am running Black prints. Any advice would be appreciated.

[northernlife]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

All colour printers on the market do a form of steganography. Printer steganography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also the machine is stopping, doing an auto grad adjustment and then continuing. This will use toner as well.

[tpant]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

All colour printers on the market do a form of steganography. Printer steganography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also the machine is stopping, doing an auto grad adjustment and then continuing. This will use toner as well.

Running a black & white job of 20,000 impressions I could steady watch the CMY toner levels going down. Again I had grayscale selected from the Fiery. There was a huge amount of toner in the waste bottle also. I don't now were to start with this. Image quality is perfect and there is no error codes. Everything seems perfect except the CMY toner levels dropping while running large black & white jobs. Thanks

[teckat]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

I have a Canon Imagepress C6000 witch appears to be working perfectly. The problem is when running large black and white jobs my CMY toner level keep going down. I seems that the toner is being ran directly into the waste toner bottle. I am selecting greyscale in the Fiery rip. The counters also show that I am running Black prints. Any advice would be appreciated.

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Are u a tech or end user ?
Ask because > when u select Greyscale > either from using a Fiery print driver or a Print kit driver, this selection always uses a small amt. of CMY toner.

If you have Black only selection in Print driver > that will use Black toner only.

During long runs Color printers > depending how initalazation is set up [500 or 1000 prints/copies] this uses CMYK patches on ITB for image stabalization .

[ZOOTECH]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

____;
Are u a tech or end user ?
Ask because > when u select Greyscale > either from using a Fiery print driver or a Print kit driver, this selection always uses a small amt. of CMY toner.

If you have Black only selection in Print driver > that will use Black toner only.

During long runs Color printers > depending how initalazation is set up [500 or 1000 prints/copies] this uses CMYK patches on ITB for image stabalization .

I think you nailed it again (as usual) teckat. With the Sharp machine, greyscale is a processed black (CMYK) and if you want black only, you choose Mono2 (black only).

[Joseph2011]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

I have a Canon Imagepress C6000 witch appears to be working perfectly. The problem is when running large black and white jobs my CMY toner level keep going down. I seems that the toner is being ran directly into the waste toner bottle. I am selecting greyscale in the Fiery rip. The counters also show that I am running Black prints. Any advice would be appreciated.

canon is a newsletter that lets you work only in black and white and the other developing units CMY not rotate and so do not provide toner, say .....


saludosTP08 343.pdfTP08 343.pdf

[tpant]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

Thanks for all the responses. I can't seem to find a mono or newspaper mode on Fiery Workstation.

[teckat]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

Thanks for all the responses. I can't seem to find a mono or newspaper mode on Fiery Workstation.

U control using the print driver settings, look in th PS DRIVER properties,

? What Fiery Server do u have connected ?


Joseph2011> has posted some good info, but that is for walk up copying i believe.

[tpant]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

U control using the print driver settings, look in th PS DRIVER properties,

? What Fiery Server do u have connected ?


Joseph2011> has posted some good info, but that is for walk up copying i believe.

I have the A1100, with command workstation 4. I am loading the pdf to print directly on the A1100.

[tpant]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

Another issue. I am running a black job, the magenta ran out, it will not let me continue to run black only prints. Not even to make a black and white copy. The manual says you can continue running black even if CMY are empty.

[teckat]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

Another issue. I am running a black job, the magenta ran out, it will not let me continue to run black only prints. Not even to make a black and white copy. The manual says you can continue running black even if CMY are empty.

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It is possible to configure the device to use print Black Only Mode


The device must have System Software version 50.84 or higher, in order for this Function / Feature to be possible.

When printing long runs of Black Toner, the Starter spills from the Yellow, Magenta and the Cyan (YMC) Developing Assemblies. Even though YMC Toner is being used to print the job the YMC Developing Assemblies are still rotating and the Toner and Starter begin to degrade causing

To configure the Canon device to use print Black Only Mode perform the following steps:

Enter service mode (level 2)
select COPIER
select OPTION
select BODY
select DEV-SP1
configure Bit 0 to a value of 1
select OK
press RESET to exit service mode


do u know how to get into LEVEL 2
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Printing with Black only Mode
The Black Only Mode Feature is only effective with jobs that are pure Black.

If a job is sent from the RIP(Fiery Server) with any Color pages and the Driver Setting is set to “Auto-detect” or “Color”, the imagePRESS will print in Color Mode.
Also, if a Job is printed that includes a mixture of Black only and Color pages, and the Black only pages are at the beginning of the Job, a production lapse of up to three minutes may be experienced.
Example: The Job sent to be printed is made up of 10 pages, the first two Black only the rest Color, and multiple sets are selected the Job will print as follows:
• The Job will start in Black only Mode, for pages one and two.
• The imagePRESS will cycle down before printing pages three though ten, approximately three minutes.
• Pages three through ten will print in Color Mode, as will the remainder of the Job. Including pages one and two of the remaining sets.
The imagePRESS will not switch back to Black Only Mode until the next Black only Job is printed.

Please follow the steps below to ensure the Black & White is being used effectively.
READ>>>>

[teckat]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

GOOD READ

Black Processing

Conventionally, the ON/OFF setting is made by specifying Use pure black for Text and Graphics. In this version, however, you can select from
rich black/pure black/normal in Black Processing.
In the Printer Driver, Command WorkStation, and Hot Folders, use Expert Color Settings under Print Options to turn this function on and off.

-Pure Black
Prints with K 100%. Same as the existing ON setting.
-Rich Black
Reproduces Rich Black with K 100% + C 50%.
-NormalimagePRESS Server Color Management Guide
click on link below for rest of Guide download

http://www.techsupport.cusa.canon.com/pf/MHPContent/imagepress/iPress-Server-Color-Guide.pdf

[tpant]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

That is some great information. I am going to try it out right now. I owe you. Thanks a million. I hope I have the right version.

[tpant]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

How can I check the current version of the system software?

[teckat]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

How can I check the current version of the system software?

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u must not be a tech if u ask for that direction or a untrained service person on model



in service mode
print out a P PRINT & USER Print /

or in service mode> go to COPIER> DISPLAY> VERSION