Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

[tpant]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

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u must not be a tech if u ask for that direction or a untrained service person on model



in service mode
print out a P PRINT & USER Print /

or in service mode> go to COPIER> DISPLAY> VERSION

I got into COPIER> DISPLAY > VERSION, but then which one is the system software. I show a MEDIA-EN = 42.01 & LANG-ES = 90.40.

[teckat]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

I got into COPIER> DISPLAY > VERSION, but then which one is the system software. I show a MEDIA-EN = 42.01 & LANG-ES = 90.40.

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MN CONT is the Main Firmware ver.

v92.02 is latest

[tpant]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

Ok. I have MN-CONT 90.40, so that should allow the black only mode. I have DEV-SP1 bit 0 set to 1. Mine was set to (0000 1110) now it is (0000 1111). Is there any way to tell that it is actually in black only mode.

[teckat]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

Ok. I have MN-CONT 90.40, so that should allow the black only mode. I have DEV-SP1 bit 0 set to 1. Mine was set to (0000 1110) now it is (0000 1111). Is there any way to tell that it is actually in black only mode.

Make some Black only copies on glass , then
Check your counters

This only works if u follow the rules

Bit adjust will stay - unless u change it back

[tpant]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

Make some Black only copies on glass , then
Check your counters

This only works if u follow the rules

Bit adjust will stay - unless u change it back

I am doing black only copies on the glass.

101 Total1 increments with each print
108 Total(Black1) increments with each print

Is 101 the color counter or is it something else?

[teckat]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

I am doing black only copies on the glass.

101 Total1 increments with each print
108 Total(Black1) increments with each print

Is 101 the color counter or is it something else?

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101 is your Total Counter it can not be changed
Other counters are set up according to billing contracts

if you have s service contract, speak to your rep or dont loose sleep over it

[tpant]

Teckat. Thanks so much. You have really helped me with my understanding of this printer.

[tpant]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

Alright! Starting the new day. From previous work I should have a black only mode. I got the counters rearranged showing color & black prints seperate. When I make a black copy from the glass it show 1 click for the black and no clicks for the color. Everything seems great. I then made some black only from the glass again with the covers open. All 4 drums were still running. I thought the CMY drum would not run in black only mode, or I am missing something.

[teckat]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

Alright! Starting the new day. From previous work I should have a black only mode. I got the counters rearranged showing color & black prints seperate. When I make a black copy from the glass it show 1 click for the black and no clicks for the color. Everything seems great. I then made some black only from the glass again with the covers open. All 4 drums were still running. I thought the CMY drum would not run in black only mode, or I am missing something.

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Soft counter specifications
there are over 495 counter variations within those listed
000 to 099 Remote copy
100 to 199 Total
200 to 299 Copy
300 to 399 Print
400 to 499 Copy and print
500 to 599 Scan
600 to 699 Box
700 to 799 Reception print
800 to 899 Report print
900 to 999 Transmission
Meanings of symbols in tablesCanon Engineering can't even explain all of them
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Tech Pub is talking about the Developer Units not turning & not the Drum Units//

M5 to M8
Developing motors /To rotate the developing cylinders and the toner feeding screws

ACR (Auto Carrier Refresh) control=u can't stop this from happening
This is a control to supply developer to the developing assembly and also discharge developer to keep optimal developer amount in the developing assembly.




M1 to M4
Drum motors /To rotate the photosensitive drums, and the waste toner screw

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u have received much information on this issue/ there are posted documents & a fiery server guide to read/

think it's about time to close this Thread. /

[tpant]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

Well again I appreciate all the help. I am reading everything I can get my hands on.

The fact still remains I am running a B&W job and still watching my CMY level go down. This should be a no brainer, not sure what is making this so difficult.

This printer should be able to run B&W even when CMY is depleted. When CMY run out it forces me to replace, even though I am running a B&W job.

I did find a BK-MODE in Level 1> COPIER>OPTION>BODY not sure if this would help or not. I can't find it in the service manual.

[tpant]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

I finally got it working. Under Service Level 1 COPIER> OPTION> BODY> BK-MODE changed from 0 to 1. The CMY developers do not run on Black & White jobs now. Works perfectly from the glass or from the Fiery RIP. I really thank you for all the help.

Thanks
Tom

[teckat]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

I finally got it working. Under Service Level 1 COPIER> OPTION> BODY> BK-MODE changed from 0 to 1. The CMY developers do not run on Black & White jobs now. Works perfectly from the glass or from the Fiery RIP. I really thank you for all the help.

Thanks
Tom

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The Canon Factory Default value for that BK-MODE is always "1"

some one had to change it to "0"

BK-MODE= Setting of shift condition to single black color mode.

Details= To set the conditions to shift to single black color mode.
Adj/set/operate method-- Enter the setting value, and then press OK key.
Display/adj/set range = 0 to 10
0: Not shifted
1: At continuous output of 100 pages in Bk
2: At continuous output of 200 pages in Bk
3: When job color mode is Black
4: Job color mode is Color, and at continuous output of 100 pages in Bk
5: Job color mode is Color, and at continuous output of 200 pages in Bk
6 to 10: Not used
Default value 1


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[abstrato]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

Another issue. I am running a black job, the magenta ran out, it will not let me continue to run black only prints. Not even to make a black and white copy. The manual says you can continue running black even if CMY are empty.

[teckat]

Re: Using CMY Toner when printing Black & White

This isdue was fixed__read solution above.