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  • AhaaOkay
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    • Mar 2014
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    #1

    Offending command / Pagesize - mark - false on clc 3200 C1 - (what's up here)

    Trying to print via the fiery drivers and set document size smaller than media (12x18" or 305x457mm) size by at least 1/8 "0,315mm)

    the 12x18" is registered in the copier

    And I get the above postscript error !!

    Can anyone help me make sense of this.


    even if I choose print to fit I end up with this error !!

    Thanks in advance ;-)
  • AhaaOkay
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    • Mar 2014
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    #2
    Re: Offending command / Pagesize - mark - false on clc 3200 C1 - (what's up here)

    Is there a similar table / info like this: http://www.copytechnet.com/forums/at...rt-ir2318l-pdf (Combination of Copy Modes Chart ir2318L .pdf)

    for the CLC 3200 C1+ mentioned here (post #13) http://www.copytechnet.com/forums/ca...tml#post340182

    What is the limits (min / max size ) of paper being used in the stack bypass

    Standard ?

    Non-standard ?

    TIA

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    • teckat
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      Re: Offending command / Pagesize - mark - false on clc 3200 C1 - (what's up here)

      did u register the irregular paper size in Printer

      Stack Bypass:
      Irregular size (3 15/16" x 5 7/8" to 12 5/8" x 18" (100 mm x 148 mm to 320 mm x 457 mm))



      Paper Quantity: one to approximately 100 sheets (20 lb bond (80 g/m2), stack
      approximately 1/2" (10 mm) high)

      C1 CUSTOM.JPG
      C1 CUSTOM.JPG
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      • AhaaOkay
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        • Mar 2014
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        #4
        Re: Offending command / Pagesize - mark - false on clc 3200 C1 - (what's up here)

        Originally posted by teckat
        did u register the irregular paper size in Printer

        Stack Bypass:
        Irregular size (3 15/16" x 5 7/8" to 12 5/8" x 18" (100 mm x 148 mm to 320 mm x 457 mm))

        From my initial post: >> the 12x18" is registered in the copier <<



        But how about i/regular sizes like ;-)

        13x19" 330x483
        or SRA3 320x450

        Just trying to figure what is safe figures/printable area when comming from a PDF file / indesign/illustrator to any off these formats.

        From my understanding the printable area is a 1/8" less than the papersize

        The pictures from the manual above use some pretty antiquated drivers. The current driver from fiery talk about document size and media size. I can see that I'll have to do some screenshots for you with some current info and experiment a little

        Until you guys wake up over there I should be able to test things a little with different drivers ;-)

        Until then ;-)

        Any input welcome - I'll keep an eye open while testing ;-)


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        • teckat
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          Re: Offending command / Pagesize - mark - false on clc 3200 C1 - (what's up here)

          Originally posted by AhaaOkay
          From my initial post: >> the 12x18" is registered in the copier <<



          But how about i/regular sizes like ;-)

          13x19" 330x483
          or SRA3 320x450

          Just trying to figure what is safe figures/printable area when comming from a PDF file / indesign/illustrator to any off these formats.

          From my understanding the printable area is a 1/8" less than the papersize

          The pictures from the manual above use some pretty antiquated drivers. The current driver from fiery talk about document size and media size. I can see that I'll have to do some screenshots for you with some current info and experiment a little

          Until you guys wake up over there I should be able to test things a little with different drivers ;-)

          Until then ;-)

          Any input welcome - I'll keep an eye open while testing ;-)


          ================================================== ====


          I don't believe the 3200 series supports 13x19
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          • AhaaOkay
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            • Mar 2014
            • 24

            #6
            Re: Offending command / Pagesize - mark - false on clc 3200 C1 - (what's up here)

            Originally posted by teckat
            ================================================== ====


            I don't believe the 3200 series supports 13x19

            You're probably right the fiery driver is just an universal driver that likely supports several pieces of equipment from Canon.


            At the moment I'm not able to get anything out on the 12x18" at all be it in the manual feed tray or in a regular drawer (registered of course)


            Odd

            One should be able to print something intended for A4 at any size of paper if one choose fit/shrink oversized pages.

            But telling the copier to choose the 3rd drawer or from the stack bypass (manual feed tray) goes by like talking to a concrete wall ..... no result at all not even a sort of relief ;-)

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            • teckat
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              Re: Offending command / Pagesize - mark - false on clc 3200 C1 - (what's up here)

              Originally posted by AhaaOkay
              You're probably right the fiery driver is just an universal driver that likely supports several pieces of equipment from Canon.


              At the moment I'm not able to get anything out on the 12x18" at all be it in the manual feed tray or in a regular drawer (registered of course)


              Odd

              One should be able to print something intended for A4 at any size of paper if one choose fit/shrink oversized pages.

              But telling the copier to choose the 3rd drawer or from the stack bypass (manual feed tray) goes by like talking to a concrete wall ..... no result at all not even a sort of relief ;-)
              -----------------------------------------------------------------
              What C1 Print Driver are u using / what is OP System ? Windows 8/7 ?
              http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/office/imagepass_controllers/imagepass_c1/imagepass_c1#DriversAndSoftware

              iR3200/3220

              Copy/Print Sizes -


              Cassette Feeding = EXEC., STMTR, LTRR, LTR, LGL, 11” x 17”, 12” x 18”
              Optional Paper Deck = LTR
              Stack Bypass = 3-5/16” x 5-7/8” to 12-5/8” x 18” (100mm x 148mm to 320mm x 457mm)

              "When an imagePASS is connected the Convert Paper Size option must be configured on the imagePASS controller instead".


              Paper Size Override Function on the Canon Controller based printers is very similar to the setting on the Fiery based controllers called Convert Sizes.

              The purpose of Paper Size Override is to convert a paper size when the paper size that is set in the printer driver has not been loaded in a paper drawer. The paper that is printed on will be changed to the following sizes: Print Driver Setting Paper that will be printed on
              Letter ---> A4
              A4 ---> Letter
              11 X 17 ---> A3
              A3 ---> 11 X 17

              If [On] is selected, the paper size will be changed.
              If [Off] is selected, the paper supply message will be displayed and the paper size will not be changed.
              To Set Print Override:
              1. Press Additional Functions
              2. Select Printer Settings
              3. Select Settings
              4. Select Paper Size Override [On or Off]. (On newer Systems choose Paper Feed Settings and then Paper Size Override.)
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              • AhaaOkay
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                • Mar 2014
                • 24

                #8
                Re: Offending command / Pagesize - mark - false on clc 3200 C1 - (what's up here)

                Thanks for all that info Teckat



                Just adding info here as I collect it ....

                I use this driver ...

                efi_driver.jpgefi_driver_about_page.jpg


                I'll go and have a look at things in the morning .... meanwhile

                Running this on Windows 7 (64bit)

                1
                Will walk through the utilities section of your drivers-link.

                2.
                Where does the version C1_ver2.1.1 utilities fit in.

                3.
                Am I blind or isn't there any postscript drivers on the US drivers site ?
                ahhhh ... chose windows 7 generic ;-)

                File Name:imagePASS-c1v2.1_PS_Vista_Print.exe

                imagePASS-C1 v2.1 PPD for Windows Vista/2003/2008/Win7 32-bit OS (Non-WHQL Certified).

                is the C1_ver2.1.1 utilities intended for this driver ?


                Have grabbed the Postscript drivers from here (besides the one I'm using)

                imagePRESS C1

                Here there's 3 different PS drivers


                4.
                I'll have a go at the good old PCL 5 driver ..... .. just to get things going





                Lots to have a closer look at

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                • teckat
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                  Re: Offending command / Pagesize - mark - false on clc 3200 C1 - (what's up here)

                  When u have a Fiery connected ( imagePass C1) in your case,
                  U need to use the Drivers for it. & not the models (3200 ) drivers.
                  -----;-/

                  GO FOR IT

                  Last edited by teckat; 06-08-2014, 10:37 PM.
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                  • AhaaOkay
                    Technician
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 24

                    #10
                    Re: Offending command / Pagesize - mark - false on clc 3200 C1 - (what's up here)

                    Originally posted by teckat
                    When u have a Fiery connected ( imagePass C1) in your case,
                    U need to use the Drivers for it. & not the models (3200 ) drivers.
                    -----;-/

                    GO FOR IT

                    imagePASS-c1v2.1_PS_Vista_Print.exe 01/11/08 75 KB
                    File Name: imagePASS-c1v2.1_PS_Vista_Print.exe

                    imagePASS-C1 v2.1 PPD for Windows Vista/2003/2008/Win7 32-bit OS (Non-WHQL Certified).

                    http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/downlo...inTabView=true

                    everything I pointed to was for the imagepress C1 aka CLC 3200

                    imagePRESS C1

                    Maybe choosing OS and Language ... you'd see a perfect list


                    How am I set given that:
                    -------------------------------
                    device boot rom ver. 70.01
                    device system version 86.01
                    device function version 81.00
                    printer version 38.02


                    Is there any correlation between drivers / system / firmware and printer version that makes a nice symbioses ?!
                    Last edited by AhaaOkay; 06-09-2014, 10:58 AM.

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                    • teckat
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                      Re: Offending command / Pagesize - mark - false on clc 3200 C1 - (what's up here)

                      Originally posted by AhaaOkay
                      everything I pointed to was for the imagepress C1 aka CLC 3200

                      imagePRESS C1

                      Maybe choosing OS and Language ... you'd see a perfect list


                      How am I set given that:
                      -------------------------------
                      device boot rom ver. 70.01
                      device system version 86.01
                      device function version 81.00
                      printer version 38.02


                      Is there any correlation between drivers / system / firmware and printer version that makes a nice symbioses ?!
                      ================================================== =============================================
                      Time to get the terminology straight------


                      I believe u have your models mixed up > a CLC3200 is the same product as a iRC3200 & NOT related to a imagePress C1 Printer.


                      do u have a
                      CLC3200/3220-C1 v2
                      or CLC3200-C1
                      believe they use same drivers

                      Multi PDL Network Printer Unit-C1- BOX

                      or

                      is this what u have
                      Color Network Printer Unit- C1 V2.1 EXTERNAL BOX
                      Color Network Printer Unit-C1_box.JPG






                      Last edited by teckat; 06-09-2014, 06:39 PM.
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                      • teckat
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                        Re: Offending command / Pagesize - mark - false on clc 3200 C1 - (what's up here)

                        CLC3200/3220-C1 v2
                        PCL5e/5c, PCL6 Printer Driver v14.00

                        32bit and 64bit Windows OS
                        ================================================== ==========

                        OLD/
                        Windows 7 Compatibility for Printer Drivers:

                        Canon UK - Windows 7 Compatibility Lists .pdf

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                        • AhaaOkay
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                          • Mar 2014
                          • 24

                          #13
                          Re: Offending command / Pagesize - mark - false on clc 3200 C1 - (what's up here)

                          Originally posted by teckat
                          ================================================== =============================================
                          Time to get the terminology straight------


                          I believe u have your models mixed up > a CLC3200 is the same product as a iRC3200 & NOT related to a imagePress C1 Printer.


                          do u have a
                          CLC3200/3220-C1 v2
                          or CLC3200-C1
                          believe they use same drivers

                          Multi PDL Network Printer Unit-C1- BOX

                          or

                          is this what u have
                          Color Network Printer Unit- C1 V2.1 EXTERNAL BOX
                          [ATTACH=CONFIG]25273[/ATTACH]







                          Well I'll check the display of the copier with the "C1" unit should give an idea to what it is


                          But in europe Canon kindly write CLC 3200/iRC3200N on the reference manual for obfuscation ;-)
                          I don't have any manuals for the "RIP"/ PDL unit so I'll take some camera-shots of

                          But if I can use command worksation from "efi" there's a good probability that it's a fiery rip.


                          (Un)fortunately we got it second hand (used with a lot of toner) as we ALSO have an iRC 3200N that we can use as spares.


                          We'll be a lot smarter during tuesday ... my monday got seriously screwed up in various ways ;-)

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                          • AhaaOkay
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                            • Mar 2014
                            • 24

                            #14
                            Re: Offending command / Pagesize - mark - false on clc 3200 C1 - (what's up here)

                            Originally posted by AhaaOkay
                            Well I'll check the display of the copier with the "C1" unit should give an idea to what it is


                            But in europe Canon kindly write CLC 3200/iRC3200N on the reference manual for obfuscation ;-)
                            I don't have any manuals for the "RIP"/ PDL unit so I'll take some camera-shots of

                            But if I can use command worksation from "efi" there's a good probability that it's a fiery rip.


                            (Un)fortunately we got it second hand (used with a lot of toner) as we ALSO have an iRC 3200N that we can use as spares.


                            We'll be a lot smarter during tuesday ... my monday got seriously screwed up in various ways ;-)


                            This pd contains a few status/setup/configuration prints ;-)
                            pdf-status-setup.pd.pdf

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                            • teckat
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                              Originally posted by AhaaOkay
                              This pd contains a few status/setup/configuration prints ;-)
                              [ATTACH]25288[/ATTACH]
                              ==================

                              Config page Shows u have a External Box ---EFI Printer Unit-C1 > EFI imagePass C1 > Same Animal-just different names for other areas in the world

                              "When an imagePASS is connected the
                              Convert Paper Size option must be configured on the imagePASS controller instead".

                              u can do that under Control Panel Printer Tab
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