iRC3200 Continuous Warm-up

[Jake292]

I have an iRC3200 that keeps cycling and cycling; saying that it's warming up. It will briefly pause after a while and start right back up again. I have checked the temps in service mode and it never gets above 194 while cycling. I have swapped in a another fixing unit and had the same result. Some kind of "calibration value" so the thermistors' electrical value is properly calculated into degrees Celsius gone bad?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Jake

[Jake292]

Re: iRC3200 Continuous Warm-up

I have now installed the original fixing unit from the trouble machine into another iRC3200 and it runs fine. So, thermistors, heat rods, etc. all fine. I think it has to be a setting thing or maybe a short somewhere.

[teckat]

Re: iRC3200 Continuous Warm-up

I have now installed the original fixing unit from the trouble machine into another iRC3200 and it runs fine. So, thermistors, heat rods, etc. all fine. I think it has to be a setting thing or maybe a short somewhere.

There are a few things that can cause this symptom.


-------'-------Remove the Delivery Vertical Path Unit on the left side of the machine. You will see a photo sensor PS5 Fixing Feeder Unit Open/Close Sensor sandwiched between two microsensors that actuate when closing the Fixing Feeder Unit. Clean that photo sensor as it fills up with dirt and dust. You may also experience an E004 0002 in the error history.

Enter into service mode, display density. One of the toner windows will display -4.75 and the others will display 0. The one at -4.75 has a bad toner add motor and needs to be replaced
Also? ? How old are the DRUMS ??
+++++to add on=
Try to reseat all the connections and DIMMs on the Main Controller. If reseating the connections fails to resolve this issue you may have to replace the Memory

[Jake292]

Re: iRC3200 Continuous Warm-up

Awesome, teckat thank you for your guidance. I cleaned the Fixing Feeder Unit Open/Close Sensor. Still continuous warm-up. CYM drums are less than 100, K is 138. CMY toner motors are at 0 but, K is at -3.74. I'm thinking that's close enough to indicate K toner motor has a problem; is that what you'd think?

[Canuck]

Re: iRC3200 Continuous Warm-up

Does it have a finisher? If so remove the staple cartridge and try to boot up. If not clean and reseat sub boards in main cage...RAM clear???. Reseat the plugs on the fuse pcb also

[teckat]

Re: iRC3200 Continuous Warm-up

Awesome, teckat thank you for your guidance. I cleaned the Fixing Feeder Unit Open/Close Sensor. Still continuous warm-up. CYM drums are less than 100, K is 138. CMY toner motors are at 0 but, K is at -3.74. I'm thinking that's close enough to indicate K toner motor has a problem; is that what you'd think?

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yeah/ check that finisher issue posted by Canuck

Check in service mode, * 2 & 8 *, under Copier > display > Dens. Look at the value for each individual color. The normal value would be between zero and one. If you have a color with a value around four or five you have an issue with the toner/starter concentration level for that color.

check in service mode for any ERROR CODES

[Jake292]

Re: iRC3200 Continuous Warm-up

No finisher installed on machine. Reseated sub boards and blew out a ton of dust in main controller and reseated plugs on fuse pcb. Installed toner add motor, still get same density issue -3.xx%. Still continuous warm-up. The most recent error code listed is E716 0000, the next few lines are E020 04D0 and E020 01B0. Have looked a bit but can't find... How do I clear ram? Is it r-con or dc-con?

[teckat]

Re: iRC3200 Continuous Warm-up

No finisher installed on machine. Reseated sub boards and blew out a ton of dust in main controller and reseated plugs on fuse pcb. Installed toner add motor, still get same density issue -3.xx%. Still continuous warm-up. The most recent error code listed is E716 0000, the next few lines are E020 04D0 and E020 01B0. Have looked a bit but can't find... How do I clear ram? Is it r-con or dc-con?

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Don't do any clear yet

E716 is a Cassette Feed Unit / Pedestal communication error.

[copier tech]

Re: iRC3200 Continuous Warm-up

[imihm]

Re: iRC3200 Continuous Warm-up

I have now installed the original fixing unit from the trouble machine into another iRC3200 and it runs fine. So, thermistors, heat rods, etc. all fine. I think it has to be a setting thing or maybe a short somewhere.

Hello

Try initialization to set all the values to their default and then check


Thanks

[Canuck]

Re: iRC3200 Continuous Warm-up

Black drum at 138...pop another drum in it

[Jake292]

Re: iRC3200 Continuous Warm-up

Finally got it! All of the following is over the course of a few days when time would permit. Voltage issue has always pointed to black. Swapped black drum from another unit, got about 150 good copies, then E020 04D0 over and over, no more copies at all. Saw copier tech's post about toner making it into drum unit. Pulled black drum, black pulled toner, pulled ITB assembly. Small pile of toner on gear side of ITB assembly and even under assembly. Cleaned machine, cleaned ITB assembly, reinstalled ITB assembly, reinstalled black drum (original drum that gave continuous warm up problem), installed new black toner. Power machine on, watch DENS numbers while booting/warming, had better number almost instantly. The black drum must have been so far off that the machine just kept trying to add toner but, never saw an improvement in the DENS black value. It took a few times switching off and back on but, afterward the DENS values for black improved enough for the warm-up to stop. I know that sounds obvious but, this is a machine that would "warm-up" all day if you let it. Started making copies, looked great, DENS values got better each time I checked them.

A sincere thank you to all.
Jake

[mido]

Re: iRC3200 Continuous Warm-up

Hi
I faced this problem before month ago, printer always warming up message shows, the error history was E020-04B0,
I put the black drum in another copier, same problem occurred, I put black toner inside black drum manually by hand, then it was ready to print.
Yesterday the same problem and error backed, I repeated the same things add toner manually but the same problem occurred. I replaced the black drum to solve this problem.
I noticed before replaced the black drum in Dens mode the reading was 4.75%, after replaced it, becomes -1.39%.

Regards to all

[copier tech]

Re: iRC3200 Continuous Warm-up

The DENS window should be around 100% or over, this shows how clean the ATR & Patch sensors are.

[teckat]

Re: iRC3200 Continuous Warm-up

Sometimes the ATR SENSORS inside DRUM UNITS are CRAP> New & OLD DRUMS

ATR Controlpattern read unit.JPGPattern Reader Unit.pdf