ir adv 4035i

[drolfe@webmail.co.za]

hi there
we have an IR 4035 adv which the dev unit doesnt seem to be turning we normally work on toshiba so not so fimiliar with the canon. it looks like all those clutches are not activating (dev clutch , allignment clutch etc)
is there some thing that i am missing?
any help welcome.
thanks
David

[Dutchman]

Re: ir adv 4035i

hi there
we have an IR 4035 adv which the dev unit doesnt seem to be turning we normally work on toshiba so not so fimiliar with the canon. it looks like all those clutches are not activating (dev clutch , allignment clutch etc)
is there some thing that i am missing?
any help welcome.
thanks
David

Hi David

The drum and dev are driven by the main drive motor and the dev unit is activated via a clutch. Is the machine showing a error code?

[blackcat4866]

Re: ir adv 4035i

Yes, what symptoms? What have you done so far? =^..^=

[drolfe@webmail.co.za]

Re: ir adv 4035i

it jams when you make a copy by the alignment roller as that is also on a clutch from what i can see and after a while it gives the error code that shows the toner not going through as it is all sitting by the dev entrance. it looks like to me all 3 clutches are not working i traced the wires to the board and i am getting 24v there. I know on the toshibas i can test the clutches but dont know on the canon machines but it highly unlikely that all 3 clutches will stop working. i have checked the fuses and they all are ok.

[Dutchman]

Re: ir adv 4035i

it jams when you make a copy by the alignment roller as that is also on a clutch from what i can see and after a while it gives the error code that shows the toner not going through as it is all sitting by the dev entrance. it looks like to me all 3 clutches are not working i traced the wires to the board and i am getting 24v there. I know on the toshibas i can test the clutches but dont know on the canon machines but it highly unlikely that all 3 clutches will stop working. i have checked the fuses and they all are ok.

If you go into service mode ( press Star with the face once then 2 and 8 together once and then Star face again. ) Once in service mode look at the jam file as well as the error file under the display tab, and check what jam or error codes it comes up with.

[drolfe@webmail.co.za]

Re: ir adv 4035i

the error we get after a while is E0020 0000 05. just want to know when i do the instal toner in test mode is the dev unit supposed to be turning?

[laitang]

Re: ir adv 4035i

E0020 0000 05: The path between the sub hopper and the developingassembly is clogged with toner.

Description:
The Developing Assembly Toner Sensor (S25) detects the absence of toner, while the Sub Hopper Toner Sensor (S26) detects the presence of toner.
With the Developing Cylinder Clutch (CL3) turned on, the hopper feed screw motor (M16) is rotated for 1 sec intermittently 194 times; still, the Developing Assembly Toner Sensor (S25) does not detect the presence of toner.

CANON-ira4035_Toner.JPG

Remedy:
1. Check the rotation of hopper motor gear. (If rotating, false detection by the sensor is doubted. Feed the toner to the developing unit in service mode: COPIER > FUNCTION > INSTALL > TONER-S.)
2. Replace the Developing Assembly Toner Sensor (S25).
3. Replace the Sub Hopper Toner Sensor (S26).

[drolfe@webmail.co.za]

Re: ir adv 4035i

what i just did was vacume all the toner out the dev unit the went into instal toner now it just gives me a NG

[drolfe@webmail.co.za]

Re: ir adv 4035i

ok i manually poured toner in dev unit now it comes ready makes a copy and jams at reg rollers i am convinced that all 3 clutches are not working i am thinking its the engine control board. is there anyway that i can prove it. i did a test now on the correct pins for the dev clutch and i am only getting 18v and not 24v would that make a difference?

[Dutchman]

Re: ir adv 4035i

ok i manually poured toner in dev unit now it comes ready makes a copy and jams at reg rollers i am convinced that all 3 clutches are not working i am thinking its the engine control board. is there anyway that i can prove it. i did a test now on the correct pins for the dev clutch and i am only getting 18v and not 24v would that make a difference?

Hi David,

If the machine comes up with an error code it will stop and it would seem as if it has jammed. Check your jam and error codes at the time of the jam and you would probably find that the same error code could have occurred.
Should the error code be the same then follow the advise that Liatang has sent you.

[drolfe@webmail.co.za]

Re: ir adv 4035i

hi there
when it jams it only has the jam code now that the error code has gone as i have manually poured enogh toner in dev unit. I did a part chk and held the reg clutch in my had to see if i can feel it activating and i cant the same with the dev clutch

[Dutchman]

Re: ir adv 4035i

hi there
when it jams it only has the jam code now that the error code has gone as i have manually poured enogh toner in dev unit. I did a part chk and held the reg clutch in my had to see if i can feel it activating and i cant the same with the dev clutch

What is the jam code

[drolfe@webmail.co.za]

Re: ir adv 4035i

The jam code is 0107

[Dutchman]

Re: ir adv 4035i

The jam code is 0107

Hi David,

Jam code 0107 is a delay at sensor 19 this is the sensor at the fuser exit. How-ever it might not get there bacause of the fact that you mentioned the register stop roller also not activating. All those are controlled by the main motor M1. This is controlled by the the DC controller.
Could you try and do a box check. This you do by switching the machine on holding down 2 and 4.
If you have a P- Print that was printed before you could try and clear the DC controller in service mode Function-Clear-DCcon. You would have to re-enter certain values again from the p-print.

[drolfe@webmail.co.za]

Re: ir adv 4035i

thanks for that if i dont hae the p-print can i still do the reset?