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  • aAandy
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    • Apr 2012
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    #1

    [CQ] iR-C4080 with H1 fiery

    Hello people

    when i print reports or color calibration pages from the fiery, they come out ghost-like faint

    machine gradation works fine, machine reports (network report for example) come out fine

    network printing via the H1 works fine, but i can't color calibrate the fiery, as the prints come out so faint, the machine cannot recognise them when i put them on the platen glass to be scanned

    any thoughts anyone?

    thanks in advance
  • vigour
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    • Aug 2010
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    Re: iR-C4080 with H1 fiery

    I would start by reloading system software H1 H2

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    • aAandy
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      Re: iR-C4080 with H1 fiery

      Originally posted by vigour
      I would start by reloading system software H1 H2
      yeah, figured as much, but i've never had to do such a thing before - where do i start?? where do i get the software?? how do i upload it,, etc etc

      i'm presuming it's not as simple as a firmware update lol

      any pointers would be very much appreciated

      thank you

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      • teckat
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        • Jan 2010
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        Re: iR-C4080 with H1 fiery

        Originally posted by aAandy
        yeah, figured as much, but i've never had to do such a thing before - where do i start?? where do i get the software?? how do i upload it,, etc etc

        i'm presuming it's not as simple as a firmware update lol

        any pointers would be very much appreciated

        thank you

        ********

        Go under the Print Tab on control panel>,
        U want to select REMOVE CALIBRATION>
        __under Print Form Setup set Toner Saving to "OFF"

        Next> do a full auto cal for copier> then u calibrate the H1.

        *********************************

        When printing to toner-based print engines such as color copiers, many environmental factors affect the color output of the device. Changes in temperature, humidity, and substrates can substantially alter the color of prints over time. To keep print quality consistent from the first to the last, users must be able to measure the current performance of the print engine. The RIP can compensate for changes in conditions as long as it is aware of the copier's status. Calibration gives the RIP the information it needs to make the necessary adjustments. The best way to ensure consistent color is to calibrate using a tool called a densitometer. A densitometer measures the current toner density levels of the print engine. For copiers that support scanning, the RIP device also enables users to calibrate off the copier glass using ColorCal, a fast and easy solution. Once the base measurement is taken, the RIP will make the necessary adjustments to
        ensure that the copier performance meets its target. Canon recommends that users calibrate anywhere from once a day to once every week, depending on their needs and environment.

        Calibration Procedure_(:-\/

        1. Clean/Adj optics. Clean/inspect optics and white plate/roller. Perform CCD Adj. Some older machines will be CCD Adj (without paper) and newer machines will be DF-WLVL 1-4 with good quality white paper.

        2. Perform Full Auto Gradation.
        Now that the optics can properly read the data calibrate the copier. Perform this adjustment on the media being used to print onto. Bright white (98-100) 24lb-28lb is recommended for plain paper over using 20lb bond for more accurate color reproduction. If the customer is using cardstocks perform adjustment on this as well. Generally 32lb-60lb cover is Heavy 1 and 61lb-80 cover is Heavy 2.

        3. Calibrate the Fiery RIP. Enter calibration mode on copier through Printer, Settings, Functions, calibration, enter Fiery.1 for the password and press OK. If you do not have a densitometer choose the Standard Color Cal Measurement page method under set-up.
        Use a clean Grey Scale positioned in the top center of the letter size portrait area of the platen glass.
        Press Calibrate and Yes to print the Measurement Page. Place printed page over the Grey Scale and press Yes and then done to measure. After successful measurement press Yes to overwrite and to it affecting all users.

        4. Print out a Test Page and Configuration Page. Under Printer, Print Pages, Test Page the Configuration. After verifying print quality place these with the COMPLETED Service Log attached to the machine.

        5. Verify Customer Knowledge on Calibration Procedure. Ensure that the customer is aware of Steps 2 and 3 for increased quality/reliability and service time.

        What are u using to calibrate H1 FIERY_?
        Kodak Grey Scale_?
        Densitometor_?
        **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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        • aAandy
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          #5
          Re: iR-C4080 with H1 fiery

          Originally posted by teckat
          ********

          Go under the Print Tab on control panel>,
          U want to select REMOVE CALIBRATION>
          __under Print Form Setup set Toner Saving to "OFF"

          Next> do a full auto cal for copier> then u calibrate the H1.

          *********************************

          When printing to toner-based print engines such as color copiers, many environmental factors affect the color output of the device. Changes in temperature, humidity, and substrates can substantially alter the color of prints over time. To keep print quality consistent from the first to the last, users must be able to measure the current performance of the print engine. The RIP can compensate for changes in conditions as long as it is aware of the copier's status. Calibration gives the RIP the information it needs to make the necessary adjustments. The best way to ensure consistent color is to calibrate using a tool called a densitometer. A densitometer measures the current toner density levels of the print engine. For copiers that support scanning, the RIP device also enables users to calibrate off the copier glass using ColorCal, a fast and easy solution. Once the base measurement is taken, the RIP will make the necessary adjustments to
          ensure that the copier performance meets its target. Canon recommends that users calibrate anywhere from once a day to once every week, depending on their needs and environment.

          Calibration Procedure_(:-\/

          1. Clean/Adj optics. Clean/inspect optics and white plate/roller. Perform CCD Adj. Some older machines will be CCD Adj (without paper) and newer machines will be DF-WLVL 1-4 with good quality white paper.

          2. Perform Full Auto Gradation.
          Now that the optics can properly read the data calibrate the copier. Perform this adjustment on the media being used to print onto. Bright white (98-100) 24lb-28lb is recommended for plain paper over using 20lb bond for more accurate color reproduction. If the customer is using cardstocks perform adjustment on this as well. Generally 32lb-60lb cover is Heavy 1 and 61lb-80 cover is Heavy 2.

          3. Calibrate the Fiery RIP. Enter calibration mode on copier through Printer, Settings, Functions, calibration, enter Fiery.1 for the password and press OK. If you do not have a densitometer choose the Standard Color Cal Measurement page method under set-up.
          Use a clean Grey Scale positioned in the top center of the letter size portrait area of the platen glass.
          Press Calibrate and Yes to print the Measurement Page. Place printed page over the Grey Scale and press Yes and then done to measure. After successful measurement press Yes to overwrite and to it affecting all users.

          4. Print out a Test Page and Configuration Page. Under Printer, Print Pages, Test Page the Configuration. After verifying print quality place these with the COMPLETED Service Log attached to the machine.

          5. Verify Customer Knowledge on Calibration Procedure. Ensure that the customer is aware of Steps 2 and 3 for increased quality/reliability and service time.

          What are u using to calibrate H1 FIERY_?
          Kodak Grey Scale_?
          Densitometor_?
          i did do the remove calibration bit, then full machine gradation, then attempted fiery color calibration again (no go) - though i didn't check the toner save mode

          i will re-check when i revisit, as i have to fit a new IBT cleaning assy

          i used the color calibration print-out from the fiery to calibrate,,,, way too faint for the scanner to see it (machine does not recognise prompt)

          thanks teckat

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