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  • copicatt
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    • Nov 2008
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    #1

    ir3245

    Ok, so I'm having trouble getting films to last on some of these machines. I know this is a common problem. I can change them in no time by now. I am sitting here thinking until I have confused myself. Would more pressure at the rear of the fuser Rollers cause the film to walk to the rear? or would that cause it to walk to the front. I'm just gonna try to pay attention to which way it walks and try to adjust slightly accordingly.
  • copyhere
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    • May 2009
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    Re: ir3245

    I had the same problem on a 4570 and the film was constantly tearing on the front end by increasing the pressure a little on the front it stopped it from walking toward the front.

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    • copier tech
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      Re: ir3245

      You should never adjust the fuser pressure, that is factory set.

      If you have using genuine canon fuser film units, also replace the pressure roller & bushings as these wear down causing uneven pressure.
      Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

      For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

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      • copyhere
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        Re: ir3245

        I agree you should never adjust this except. The 4570 that I had this problem on did the same thing 3 times after using canon film assys and new lfr and bushings. Its possible that someone before me adjusted those screws.

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        • copicatt
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          Re: ir3245

          Canon came up with a tech pub at one time describing how to adjust the pressure screws on these so respectfully, they saw the need to do so.

          I did test and watch the film and did find that the film walks toward the end with more pressure. I have one that is doing this twice over the last 20k. Walking ro rear. Thanks for the replies.

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          • Luther
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            • May 2006
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            #6
            Re: ir3245

            when you flip the pressure plates that have the pressure screws on them with the red locktight, measure the amount of thread sticking out, they should be equal i set mine to 8mm to 9mm, but equal, had this problem on all similar engines and have had them go as high as 100k every time i replace the film i check the screws

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            • copicatt
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              #7
              Re: ir3245

              Yes. Particular machine I installed new film, pressure roller, bushings, set the screw to identical measurements, and 10 k later walked to rear....

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              • copier tech
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                Re: ir3245

                Was it a Canon film ass'y or just the non oem film?
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                For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                • copicatt
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                  #9
                  Re: ir3245

                  Non oem film. Reckon that's the problem?

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                  • copier tech
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                    Re: ir3245

                    Yes definatley, I fit the oem Canon film units & never have any issues, they last around 250k had a few last 500k so worth spending a bit more.

                    For the record i've tried non oem parts on a few Canon models & they only cause issues.

                    Leave the non oem parts to 3rd world countries!
                    Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                    For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                    www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                    • DAG COPIERS & COMPUTERS
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                      • Oct 2010
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                      #11
                      Re: ir3245

                      Originally posted by copier tech
                      Yes definatley, I fit the oem Canon film units & never have any issues, they last around 250k had a few last 500k so worth spending a bit more.

                      For the record i've tried non oem parts on a few Canon models & they only cause issues.

                      Leave the non oem parts to 3rd world countries!
                      Neither do we need those non oems here; we are not a dumping ground for electronic or any other wastes.

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                      • Canuck
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                        • Nov 2007
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                        Re: ir3245

                        This is a know issue on 3245 family machines. Never an issue on 4570s or 3045 families, just 32 series. Canon has bulletins about adjusting nip, check bracket on machine frame for alignment, improperly seated bushings or bearings, bent fuser frame, blah, blah, blah, etc. Done them all and still had certain machines eat films. Solution? Replaced the entire fixing assembly and problems disappeared.

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