Konica c6500 Color Registration Problems

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  • Printer101
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 1

    #1

    Konica c6500 Color Registration Problems

    Hello,

    We've suddenly encountered a problem with our Konica c6500 unit and have been struggling to fix it but with no success. As to the attached image, the colors are completely out of registration. The odd part is how they seem to be different depending on which part of the print they are in. It appears the colors are out of alignment horizontally but not vertically.

    To let you know of the steps we've taken to fix it:

    We have done numerous auto color registration adjustments
    We have done numerous auto gamma adjustments
    We have swapped out the transfer belt assembly with 3 other working assembly units
    The color registration unit was swapped out
    We have tried doing a calibration through the Command Workstation

    All proved unsuccessful.

    It isn't just this paper either. Our uncoated stock we normally calibrate on with Gamma Offset has the colors out of registration on the gradient scale, and the scan for calibration through the Command Workstation shows the black bars off center with the Cyan patches. This is a first for us.

    We're starting to see it on another unit too where the colors are going out of alignment left to right, so we are concerned that unit could be on its way to this.
    Please, if anyone knows what is likely happening and the answer to this problem, let me know.
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  • tulintron
    Senior Tech

    Site Contributor
    500+ Posts
    • Jul 2014
    • 669

    #2
    Re: Konica c6500 Color Registration Problems

    any mechanical adjustment of the laser position on the front of the machine?
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    • Mick01
      Trusted Tech

      250+ Posts
      • Nov 2012
      • 362

      #3
      Re: Konica c6500 Color Registration Problems

      HI,
      Check your "Belt Line Speed" adjustment. Make sure it is within the adjustment range specified in that adjustment screen.
      Hope this helps

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      • Desert Rat
        Service Manager

        Site Contributor
        1,000+ Posts
        • May 2008
        • 1089

        #4
        Re: Konica c6500 Color Registration Problems

        Most of the time I find this issue is related to copy quality. Did you try the printer gamma offset adjust?
        What happens when you try the manual clr registration adjustment?
        Does it finisher the Auto clr registration adjust?
        I have also found that the wipers on the registration sensors will collect toner and I have seen toner under
        that clear lens on the sensors. You swapped that out. Hmmm...
        Are the PM numbers high?
        Have you tried the Recall Standard Data?


        DR

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        • Cookr
          Trusted Tech

          Site Contributor
          100+ Posts
          • Dec 2011
          • 184

          #5
          Re: Konica c6500 Color Registration Problems

          Sorry cant think of a fix for you at the moment people have said what I was thinking but I would like to see the bottom half of that photo lol. Good luck

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          • bachirabouzeid
            Technician
            • Sep 2015
            • 17

            #6
            Re: Konica c6500 Color Registration Problems

            plz check the DIPSW
            23-3-0
            23-4-0
            25-3-0
            25-4-0
            and do auto color registration adjustments
            if a trouble code appear change the color registration sensors

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            • Imsdal
              Trusted Tech

              100+ Posts
              • Aug 2009
              • 111

              #7

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              • futuremedia.ae1@gmail.com

                #8
                Re: Konica c6500 Color Registration Problems

                Do perform the manual color registration, FD Mag adjustment and CD Mag Adjustments in FD mag Adjustment distance between two marked points should be 205.7 and in CD Mag Adjustment distance between two marked points should be 190

                check the print if registration problem has in main scan direction adjust CD mag values and if in sub Scan Direction adjust the FD mag values, belt line speed

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                • Synthohol
                  Certified Konica Expert

                  Site Contributor
                  5,000+ Posts
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 5737

                  #9
                  Re: Konica c6500 Color Registration Problems

                  Just for giggles, has anyone swapped the drums or developer units around to see if the issue moves to a. Different color?
                  What about the internal test pages? Does it have a fiery? Try a ps test page and post that if you could.
                  You can swap dv units, tape the hole shut and leave the toner door open so it wont add toner during testing.
                  I just want to help eliminate mechanical problems before electrical.
                  We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                  The medication helps though...

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                  • RRodgers
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 1947

                    #10
                    Re: Konica c6500 Color Registration Problems

                    Does that model have the paper entrance loop sensor for the fuser? I bet yours was stuck or not working properly.
                    Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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                    • sweep

                      #11
                      Re: Konica c7000 Color Registration Problems

                      Hi, New to this forum, 1st time in any forum actually so please bear with me.
                      I have a problem with registration of all the colours on my konica c-7000
                      The black being the worse at approx 2mm out. cyan, magenta and yellow
                      all out with the black and approx 1mm with each other.
                      I have replaced the registration unit with one from another press which worked well on my other press.
                      I also swapped the IBT unit from my other press which also worked fine on my other press.
                      Any feedback would be much appreciated

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                      • Desert Rat
                        Service Manager

                        Site Contributor
                        1,000+ Posts
                        • May 2008
                        • 1089

                        #12
                        Re: Konica c6500 Color Registration Problems

                        Sweep,
                        As mentioned before, I find most registration problems are related to copy quality. Make sure your PM numbers are low.
                        You may need to change the developer. I have seen them get under concentrated and produce a print with mottle and
                        you can feel the developer mix on the page. Whatever color that is, needs more toner. You can manually add toner to that
                        color. Then run the toner init. program so it will keep up with itself.
                        Don't mess with the mechanical adjustment for the laser lens.

                        Keep up posted

                        DR

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                        • Bernard
                          Technician
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 14

                          #13
                          Re: Konica c6500 Color Registration Problems

                          Originally posted by Printer101
                          Hello,

                          We've suddenly encountered a problem with our Konica c6500 unit and have been struggling to fix it but with no success. As to the attached image, the colors are completely out of registration. The odd part is how they seem to be different depending on which part of the print they are in. It appears the colors are out of alignment horizontally but not vertically.

                          To let you know of the steps we've taken to fix it:

                          We have done numerous auto color registration adjustments
                          We have done numerous auto gamma adjustments
                          We have swapped out the transfer belt assembly with 3 other working assembly units
                          The color registration unit was swapped out
                          We have tried doing a calibration through the Command Workstation

                          All proved unsuccessful.

                          It isn't just this paper either. Our uncoated stock we normally calibrate on with Gamma Offset has the colors out of registration on the gradient scale, and the scan for calibration through the Command Workstation shows the black bars off center with the Cyan patches. This is a first for us.

                          We're starting to see it on another unit too where the colors are going out of alignment left to right, so we are concerned that unit could be on its way to this.
                          Please, if anyone knows what is likely happening and the answer to this problem, let me know.
                          Is it throwing a code? I would checked your toner level or depleted developer in one of the colors. Especially the yellow. It'll still pass calibrations sometimes even though color is depleted.

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                          • mircea
                            Technician

                            50+ Posts
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 70

                            #14
                            Re: Konica c6500 Color Registration Problems

                            try to jam one page before it enterses fusing unit.
                            Take a look at that page and at how the image looks on transfer belt.
                            I think you still got a problem with color registration unit if it looks bad on transfer belt too.
                            Does that page look all the same? or it only does that problem repeats itself 1-2 times/page?
                            try to take a look at transfer roller motor too...Had a printer and the motor's metal teeths were bad and it was jumping 2-3 steps/page and was doing something similar to your problem.
                            If nothing works go in service mode and check the registration color/gamma sensors values and see if you find anything abnormal.

                            best of luck

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