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  • Guy Milner
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Nov 2013
    • 61

    #1

    [Error Code] CFA14

    We have two very new C308s in one customer (less than 600 copies on both)

    Both came in for error code CFA14 within a day of each other. If you uninstall the HDD, the machine won't error, but this is not an option.

    After updating firmware on one of them, CD011 came up. Tried backdating, but the machine couldn't read the same usb stick?

    Two machines down. Manufacturer recommend replacing the HDDs. Seems weird to happen to two machines in the same office at the same time though!

    These were our first installs of the new 8 version machines. NOT GOOD!

    Anyone have any ideas?

    Thanks in advance......
  • srvctec
    Former KM Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Oct 2009
    • 827

    #2
    Re: CFA14

    Is the power clean (no spikes, surges, highs or lows) at this office? Are these machines connected to any type of line conditioner or any sort of power protection? We've had, on numerous occasions, the C253 series machines with HDDs that appeared to be bad (locked up and UNUSABLE with no codes when trying to scan) because of power surges, even when connected to a line conditioner. The power at the office was so bad, the line conditioner did no good. In actuality, the HDD never was fried, just needed to remove and reformat it on a PC and put it back in the machine and reformat it in the machine. I realize this isn't the exact same issue, but the common thing in your two machines is presumably the power.
    Started in the copier service business in the fall of 1988 and worked at the same company for 33.5 years, becoming the senior tech in 2004 but left to pursue another career on 4/29/22.

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    • CompyTech
      Super Tech

      500+ Posts
      • Feb 2011
      • 706

      #3
      Re: CFA14

      Had it happen on a new 454e not too long ago.. Maybe the HDD got corrupted. I would file a warranty claim on the HDD, you can get the replacement within 2 days usually, overnight if necessary.

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      • Guy Milner
        Technician

        50+ Posts
        • Nov 2013
        • 61

        #4
        Re: CFA14

        Originally posted by srvctec
        Is the power clean (no spikes, surges, highs or lows) at this office? Are these machines connected to any type of line conditioner or any sort of power protection? We've had, on numerous occasions, the C253 series machines with HDDs that appeared to be bad (locked up and UNUSABLE with no codes when trying to scan) because of power surges, even when connected to a line conditioner. The power at the office was so bad, the line conditioner did no good. In actuality, the HDD never was fried, just needed to remove and reformat it on a PC and put it back in the machine and reformat it in the machine. I realize this isn't the exact same issue, but the common thing in your two machines is presumably the power.
        Back in tomorrow morning. I will check power, due to the fact that both machines give the same fault. Thanks.

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        • Guy Milner
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Nov 2013
          • 61

          #5
          Re: CFA14

          Originally posted by CompyTech
          Had it happen on a new 454e not too long ago.. Maybe the HDD got corrupted. I would file a warranty claim on the HDD, you can get the replacement within 2 days usually, overnight if necessary.
          I have ordered one, after the first machine went down. Perhaps we have a bad batch of HDDs on the C308s, if two at the same customers have gone down?

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          • srvctec
            Former KM Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • Oct 2009
            • 827

            #6
            Re: CFA14

            Originally posted by CompyTech
            Had it happen on a new 454e not too long ago.. Maybe the HDD got corrupted. I would file a warranty claim on the HDD, you can get the replacement within 2 days usually, overnight if necessary.
            Originally posted by Guy Milner
            I have ordered one, after the first machine went down. Perhaps we have a bad batch of HDDs on the C308s, if two at the same customers have gone down?
            Really bad power will cause HDDs to get corrupted. Once we found out we could just connect the HDDs to a PC and reformat them at their default partitions (usually 3, I think), we don't have to order nearly as many drives as we used to.
            Started in the copier service business in the fall of 1988 and worked at the same company for 33.5 years, becoming the senior tech in 2004 but left to pursue another career on 4/29/22.

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            • CompyTech
              Super Tech

              500+ Posts
              • Feb 2011
              • 706

              #7
              Re: CFA14

              Originally posted by Guy Milner
              I have ordered one, after the first machine went down. Perhaps we have a bad batch of HDDs on the C308s, if two at the same customers have gone down?
              Maybe. Seems like every time one goes out another one will.

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              • sikada
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2014
                • 4

                #8
                Re: CFA14

                verify that the correct print drivers are installed on all connected PC's

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                • EarthKmTech
                  Step aside, noob

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • May 2009
                  • 2139

                  #9
                  Re: CFA14

                  Western digital branded drives were pretty good, although still the WD company (now) the HGST branded drives seem to fail more often.

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                  • Guy Milner
                    Technician

                    50+ Posts
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 61

                    #10
                    Re: CFA14

                    Turned out to be the MFP boards. Both machines were replaced.

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                    • jotunn
                      Senior Tech

                      500+ Posts
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 606

                      #11
                      Re: CFA14

                      Those machines seems to be a mass produced prototype - just like Bizhub C200.

                      I have a demo machine, from the beginning of production - everything seems to be ok, but there is no possibility to rewrite a firmware.
                      I have thought that there was a problem with proper USB memory, so I gave up until I had to find some working one to prepare the second machine (2 months younger) for installation.
                      After few tries, I found working one, but it wasn't any of USB memories I used earlier for firmware update and so on. Once I got working memory, I tried to rewrite firmware in demo machine, and guess what?
                      Nothing happened - machine started with black dot and two "stripes" and any step further... After few tries - "maybe I'm doing something wrong" I gave up again and just turned the machine on, but the machine showed me C-FA14...
                      Half a day later - [System 1]-[Initialization]-[Clear All Data] did the job, C-FA14 disappeared.

                      I have tried to extract log from firmware update (below), and it seems that machine can read USB memory, but expects completely different firmware files (!)

                      2 USB Device(s) found
                      scanning usb for storage devices... 1 Storage Device(s) found
                      reading FW0002/INDEX
                      FAT: Misaligned buffer address (fed9bf88)
                      9166 bytes read
                      @TYP=Z_S
                      USB download boot.
                      action = [2]
                      Net: f_taiki MAC=0:20:6b:a1:9c:ca
                      InitMemorySize.dat
                      ** No device specified **
                      not found InitMemorySize.dat.
                      ** No device specified **
                      not found InitMemorySizeDef.dat.
                      BspVerifyCheckAction[474] n_Type(2).
                      BspVerifyCheckAction(488) flg=(0) uc_TempUtilityKey=(0) gPanelKey=(04).

                      reading FW0002/Image
                      5335136 bytes read
                      reading FW0002/initra~1.ubo
                      ** Unable to read file FW0002/initra~1.ubo **
                      reading FW0002/mb86s7~1.dtb
                      28708 bytes read
                      Wrong Ramdisk Image Format
                      Ramdisk image is corrupt or invalid


                      The story isn't finished yet, the next step will be USB memory from trusted source (my KM friend), used a day earlier to update firmware.
                      Will see, but probably I will not get any more than with my own memories, and the story will finish with board replacement...

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                      • emujo
                        Field Supervisor

                        2,500+ Posts
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 3009

                        #12
                        Re: CFA14

                        KM has released special firmware gc2-54 to help with these, and a few other HDD related codes. It is a pretty involved process and I would only recommend a KM tech do it. If your friend works for KM, dealer, or direct, mention this to him. Emujo
                        If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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                        • Walterj
                          KONICA MINOLTA

                          50+ Posts
                          • Jun 2017
                          • 89

                          #13
                          Re: CFA14

                          Originally posted by Guy Milner
                          We have two very new C308s in one customer (less than 600 copies on both)

                          Both came in for error code CFA14 within a day of each other. If you uninstall the HDD, the machine won't error, but this is not an option.

                          After updating firmware on one of them, CD011 came up. Tried backdating, but the machine couldn't read the same usb stick?

                          Two machines down. Manufacturer recommend replacing the HDDs. Seems weird to happen to two machines in the same office at the same time though!

                          These were our first installs of the new 8 version machines. NOT GOOD!

                          Anyone have any ideas?

                          Thanks in advance......





                          To prevent the likelihood of these codes occurring and generating additional service calls, we suggest that you flash each machine with the Preventive firmware at setup, installation, or the next service call.


                          You will need the following files

                          Recovery Tool firmware
                          A7PU0Y0-F000-GXX-A8


                          Preventive firmware
                          A7PU0Y0-F000-GXX-B0


                          I hope my contribution helps.


                          Greetings.

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                          • Woxner
                            Senior Tech

                            500+ Posts
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 838

                            #14
                            Re: CFA14

                            there is also an hdd update firmware that will help this

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                            • Copier repairman
                              Technician
                              • Aug 2019
                              • 86

                              #15
                              Re: CFA14

                              will need the following files
                              You can help me.
                              canonrp@naver.com
                              jabattgg@gmail.com


                              Recovery Tool firmware
                              A7PU0Y0-F000-GXX-A8


                              Preventive firmware
                              A7PU0Y0-F000-GXX-B0


                              USB-BOOT firmware
                              A7PU0Y0-F000-GG3-54


                              USB-FW firmware
                              A7PU0Y0-F000-GC3-54


                              USB-SATA firmware
                              A7PU0Y0-F000-GXX-A6

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