C6500 Flipping blade (drum)

[VIJN]

6500 drum reply

I had a reply from ptsc after chasing this issue for some time now with japan. I had been fitting these rollers out of 8050's after trying everthing else. The rest of the country and by what i've been told england/ireland has starting to do the same with great success.
Whether km has sent us some to confirm my/our solution i don't know but the rollers turned up today in boxes straight from an assembly line with no part number ( sorry about that )

if i get any other info i will post it

[DanKMBS]

The factory will be releasing a final fix in the next few days. If you receive a drum unit with a green dot on the box, it should not flip. If you replace the blade and holders with one from a C500, it will not flip. I will post more as I receive information.

[dudley]

I am glad to hear that there may be a cure coming. We are getting a little tired of this problem. I personally feel that the problem is the fact the lube bar and the applicator roller are 14mm too short to lube the entire length of the drum and blade and until this is addressed we will be see more of it. We have reported this to SSD in the states but got no response. I sure hope the new drums work, we are in a very dry area with humidity levels around 10% and I think this doesn't help.

[doma873]

We have been putting the c500 app roller in here in canberra with great sucess. Thanks to the guys in Brisbane for a solution. I hope the new drums we are getting this week will work.

[Gerry.Fitz]

Drum flips

Hi
The new drums are being fitted as we talk...i.e tonight the customer has seven 65's and runs them 24/7 so by next week will have done at least 100k we will see if they work
Gerry

[DanKMBS]

I assume that these are the drums with the green dot?

[texchar555]

flipping blades

HI, Im just wondering . what are the locations of all the drums flipping? I live in dallas and when we get one all we do is replace the drum and we never here of this issue again.

[Setright]

It is worldwide, but no doubt local climate/printing conditions will have an effect.

[Frankie]

Here in The Netherlands we have major problems to! we are waiting for the solution! Customers are getting tired of machines with the flipping blades.

[seniortech]

There still seems no end to this problem in sight. Many customers are now aware of this problem and will not now buy KM colour production machines and are turning to alternative manufacturers because of this problem.

It appears that KM are still no nearer solving this problem than they were several months ago. Even a couple of the drum units provided to our technical support dept by KM for evaluation have flipped the blades!!

Every one of the workarounds mentioned on this forum we have tried but still cannot guarantee to our customers that the blades will not flip. I would have thought that after nearly 10 months KM would be aware of exact cause of this problem.

The long wait for a resolution continues!!!!

[texchar555]

blade flip

got one q, did you guys turn on the dehumidifiers on the machine? The switch is bottom left of the machine. Its got a cover that snaps off.

[DanKMBS]

As a KMBS tech, I can tell you that we have been told is to install the C500 blades and two white holders on a drum unit that has flipped. It has worked for me so far. If you do not install the holders, the C500 blade will flip.

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None Specified Details Subject:
Streaks and/or lines on copies, possibly accompanied by an abnormal noise.
Description:
Streaks and/or lines on copies (drum blade flipped).
Solution:
CAUSE: Drum cleaning blade has "flipped".

SOLUTION: Depending upon the installed Drum Unit there are different recommendations:

• If using a DU-102 Drum Unit please install the cleaning blade (p/n 65AA 2003 1) and 2 cleaning blade holders (p/n 65AA 2012 0) from the 8050/bizhub PRO C500. The 8050/bizhub PRO C500 cleaning blade should be trimmed on the corners before installation.
• If using a DU-102B Drum Unit please install the cleaning blade (p/n 65AA 2003 1) and 2 cleaning blade holders (p/n 65AA 2012 0) from the 8050/bizhub PRO C500. The 8050/bizhub PRO C500 cleaning blade should NOT be trimmed on the corners before installation.

[buster68]

DanKMBS,

Glad to hear that it works...now if we could just get some of those blades and holders...ours are on b/o til April.

[pspahr]

B/O til April????

Please tell me it isn't so!!!! I got the holders in no time but I still haven't received confirmation for my blades order!!!! Please tell me it isn't so!!!

[skks345]

6500 blade flipping

I have had success just using yellow toner with the original drums.using the yellow toner as padding powder and working it in to the blade,dont release the screws and add toner into the blade then release the screws and work the drum back and forth a bunch of times until the blade has gone both ways a bunch of times,have done this at a production print shop with no problems.all the other recommendations havnt worked.