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  • Desert Rat
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    CPP550 (BHC5500) controller and vairable data software


    This is an area of the business that I am weak on and need an assist.
    Here's what going on, I have a customer who wants to buy this CPP550.
    It has the controller but no monitor or key board.
    I need to verify that this controller will do variable data. I am planning to visit
    this customer to check this out. The person that used to run the machine has
    left the business and no one else knows if that software is on the controller.
    I'm not even sure of what to look for as far as recognizing the program.
    Does anyone know the name of the program or how I can verify it is on board the controller?
    Then I would need to figure out how to use it.
    The customer who wants to buy this machine has a BHC6500 that is trashed and the controller for
    that one has a monitor and keep board. Would that controller work on the CPP machine?
    If it's not on either can I still purchase the software? They say they're running an older operating system but have not
    told me what it is. I know still some questions I need to answer so I can post that info.

    Thanks

    DR
  • Synthohol
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    Re: CPP550 (BHC5500) controller and vairable data software

    CREO or Fiery?
    both do VDP
    We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
    The medication helps though...

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    • Desert Rat
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      That is one of those questions I need to answer tomorrow. I know that neither is the creo. They usually have creo printed on them and as I recall
      neither of them were marked as such.
      I'll have more info tomorrow.

      Thanks for the fast reply

      DR

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      • methogod
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        saying does variable data is vague at best.

        what are the clients needs / requirements? do they need to run PPML files? or just forms/backgrounds and overlay addresses from a pdf or word file?


        Recommend external fiery at the least... internal will do forms/backgrounds but wont handle ppml.


        monitor and keyboard for internal fiery, is not needed as you can use command workstation remotely.

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        • Synthohol
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          Re: CPP550 (BHC5500) controller and vairable data software

          the embedded (attached to rear) fiery does vdp.
          Attached Files
          We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
          The medication helps though...

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          • Desert Rat
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            Synthohol and Methogod,
            Thank you for your interest. I'm not sure what is a PPML file?
            This is where I'm weak. I was never trained on the computer end of the
            machine. As an indy I focus more on the machine. Would a good IT tech
            be able to help?
            I will check out what the customers needs are today. This is a big print company
            and right now they send this kind of work out. They want to do this stuff in house.
            They are looking at this machine as a way of capturing more of their customers
            business.
            So this is a starter machine, something not to expensive just to test the water,
            sort of speak.

            I have a long day ahead of me going from one end of town to the other. Phoenix is so spread
            out.

            Thanks again, I will post more info at the end of the day.

            DR

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            • Desert Rat
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              Synthohol and methogod,
              The info on the controller for the Cpp550 sez it is Microsoft XP embeddded OS. I was able to get a keyboard, mouse and monitor for the tower.
              The screen sez Micorsoft XP embedded. The admin password was set and I could not gain access.

              Does anyone know the factory default password for this model?

              The LD6500-No name on the outside. I believe it works with command work station but the customer does not have that. They have some kind of
              mac computer.

              No real stickers on the back of either of them.
              I'm inclined to think that the cpp550 controller is still working.
              with the machine will be the one they use. I did call the old
              operator and ask him if he knew of any passwords or variable data programs. Nope

              any advice?

              DR

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              • methogod
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                #8
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                login admin
                pw Fiery.1


                photos?

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                • Desert Rat
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                  Methogod,
                  Thank you for the password. I will give it a try.
                  What photos would you want to see?
                  Guess I neglected
                  to post the controller for the CPP550. It has IKON on the front of it
                  and on the back it sez Fiery server Pro 80-03. There is a part number
                  it is 45063229. I can see I will need to go back and power up the
                  Pro 80 again and try the password. No problem.

                  Thanks again

                  DR

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                  • peter42
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                    #10
                    Re: CPP550 (BHC5500) controller and vairable data software

                    Command Workstation for Mac is availiable at Electronics for Imaging

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                    • Synthohol
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                      CWS is downloadable from the fiery web page.
                      We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                      The medication helps though...

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                      • Desert Rat
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                        Synthohol and Peter,
                        Thank you for the leads to get Command Work Station. I will get it today.

                        Thanks again

                        Dr

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                        • Desert Rat
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                          Ok, I was able to log into the controller and found it already has command work station 4 installed.
                          They are both using Macs.

                          I have a picture of the files I think are for VDP.
                          I'm told that an independent software may be easier to use.
                          The customer buying this will have to figure this out. Is there some
                          place to look for help for them?

                          Thanks

                          DR
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                          • methogod
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                            Would reload the most recent pro80 software (should be 3.0A), its two ISO disks, make the printer drivers work best...

                            what type of client? is it a print shop? Work flow needs to be determined before helping with a specific job.

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                            • Synthohol
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                              We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                              The medication helps though...

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