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  • MFPs R Now PCs
    MFP Tech & I.T. Manager

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    • Jul 2011
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    [Jamming] bizhubC454e Cannot Scan via SMB to Windows 10

    We have a Konica Minolta bizhubC454e that just will not scan to a Shared Folder on Windows 10 via SMB (Server Connect Error every time)

    We Tested it with Windows 7 SMB (via Hostname & I.P.) and Email (Gmail) - BOTH WORK GREAT/Fine
    We Accessed the Shared Folder from another computer and placed a new file JUST FINE/OK

    Troubleshooting Methodology:

    We are ONLY Using a Windows 10 LOCAL Profile (we are familiar with the new "Microsoft Email" profiles not supporting SMB)
    We are ONLY Creating a Shared Folder directly on the ROOT Drive (Drive C: - not buried in "My Documents")
    Trouble Reset on Copier performed
    Network Data Reset on Copier performed
    Connected the Copier to the Network via DHCP and Static (Manual)
    Verified all DNS Settings and the Gateway
    Verified ALL CREDENTIALS for Windows 10 Profile
    Disabled ALL Firewalls
    Disabled ALL Anti-Virus and Malware protection

    Used I.P. Address instead of Hostname
    Formatted "All Destinations" on Copier and Re-Created Destination

    Copier Settings Related to SMB:
    Network/SMB Setting/SMB Server Setting is set to SMB 1.0/SMB 2.0
    Network/SMB Setting/Client Setting/SMB Authentication Setting is set to NTLM v1/v2

    Firmware Version:
    MFP Card Version A5C10Y0-F000-G00-C8(00)
    MFP Controller BOOT Program A5C10Y0-1E00-G00-04(00)
    MFP Controller Linux Base Linux-2.6.26.8-rt16
    MFP Controller Kernel Program A5C10Y0-1C00-G00-42
    MFP Controller SubSet A5C10Y0-1F00-G00-F1(00)
    MFP Controller A5C10Y0-0100-G00-C8(00)
    Operation Panel Message Data A5C10Y0-8100-G00-C4
    Fax Board Controller1 A22M0Y0-4000-G00-08(00)
    Fax Board Controller2
    Fax Board Controller3
    Fax Board Controller4
    Engine Parameter A5C00Y0-0054-G00-00
    Engine BOOT A5C00Y0-0055-G00-00
    Scanner A5C10Y0-0023-G00-30
    Printer A5C00Y0-0050-G00-21
    ADF A3CE0Y0-0024-G00-10
    Finisher A3EP0Y0-0071-G00-19
    RU
    ZU
    Panel CPU A55V0Y0-8900-G60-00
    DSC1
    DSC2
    Loadable Device Driver1
    Loadable Device Driver2
    SD A3ER0Y0-0071-G00-08
    Voice Data
    Movie Data A5C10Y0-C000-G00-30
    Dictionary Data A5C10Y0-B100-G00-00
    OCR Library
    Panel Sound Data A5C10Y0-C200-G00-00
    MFP Controller Thread Image Parameter A5C10Y0-8B00-G00-01
    MFP Controller PIC Image Parameter A5C10Y0-8A00-G00-01
    MFP Controller System A5C10Y0-1000-G00-C8(00)
    MFP Controller Print Controller A5C10Y0-3000-G00-T3
    MFP Controller Print Controller Font A5C10Y0-3F00-G00-T0
    MFP Controller Print Controller Demo Page A5C10Y0-3E00-G00-01
    MFP Controller MIO A5C10Y0-5000-G00-B8(00)
    MFP Controller PIC A5C10Y0-8200-G00-41
    Last edited by MFPs R Now PCs; 05-01-2018, 11:42 PM. Reason: forgot a troubleshooting method we tried
    It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop. –Confucius
  • Copier Addict
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    • Jul 2013
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    #2
    Re: bizhubC454e Cannot Scan via SMB to Windows 10

    Originally posted by MFPs R Now PCs
    We have a Konica Minolta bizhubC454e that just will not scan to a Shared Folder on Windows 10 via SMB (Server Connect Error every time)

    We Tested it with Windows 7 SMB (via Hostname & I.P.) and Email (Gmail) - BOTH WORK GREAT/Fine

    Troubleshooting Methodology:

    We are ONLY Using a Windows 10 LOCAL Profile (we are familiar with the new "Microsoft Email" profiles not supporting SMB)
    We are ONLY Creating a Shared Folder directly on the ROOT Drive (Drive C: - not buried in "My Documents")
    Trouble Reset on Copier performed
    Network Data Reset on Copier performed
    Connected the Copier to the Network via DHCP and Static (Manual)
    Verified all DNS Settings and the Gateway
    Disabled ALL Firewalls
    Disabled ALL Anti-Virus and Malware protection

    Used I.P. Address instead of Hostname
    Formatted "All Destinations" on Copier and Re-Created Destination

    Copier Settings Related to SMB:
    Network/SMB Setting/SMB Server Setting is set to SMB 1.0/SMB 2.0
    Network/SMB Setting/Client Setting/SMB Authentication Setting is set to NTLM v1/v2

    Firmware Version:
    MFP Card Version A5C10Y0-F000-G00-C8(00)
    MFP Controller BOOT Program A5C10Y0-1E00-G00-04(00)
    MFP Controller Linux Base Linux-2.6.26.8-rt16
    MFP Controller Kernel Program A5C10Y0-1C00-G00-42
    MFP Controller SubSet A5C10Y0-1F00-G00-F1(00)
    MFP Controller A5C10Y0-0100-G00-C8(00)
    Operation Panel Message Data A5C10Y0-8100-G00-C4
    Fax Board Controller1 A22M0Y0-4000-G00-08(00)
    Fax Board Controller2
    Fax Board Controller3
    Fax Board Controller4
    Engine Parameter A5C00Y0-0054-G00-00
    Engine BOOT A5C00Y0-0055-G00-00
    Scanner A5C10Y0-0023-G00-30
    Printer A5C00Y0-0050-G00-21
    ADF A3CE0Y0-0024-G00-10
    Finisher A3EP0Y0-0071-G00-19
    RU
    ZU
    Panel CPU A55V0Y0-8900-G60-00
    DSC1
    DSC2
    Loadable Device Driver1
    Loadable Device Driver2
    SD A3ER0Y0-0071-G00-08
    Voice Data
    Movie Data A5C10Y0-C000-G00-30
    Dictionary Data A5C10Y0-B100-G00-00
    OCR Library
    Panel Sound Data A5C10Y0-C200-G00-00
    MFP Controller Thread Image Parameter A5C10Y0-8B00-G00-01
    MFP Controller PIC Image Parameter A5C10Y0-8A00-G00-01
    MFP Controller System A5C10Y0-1000-G00-C8(00)
    MFP Controller Print Controller A5C10Y0-3000-G00-T3
    MFP Controller Print Controller Font A5C10Y0-3F00-G00-T0
    MFP Controller Print Controller Demo Page A5C10Y0-3E00-G00-01
    MFP Controller MIO A5C10Y0-5000-G00-B8(00)
    MFP Controller PIC A5C10Y0-8200-G00-41
    Make sure computer's network location is either "Work" or "Private". Make sure password protected sharing is off.
    If that doesn't work, try creating another user on the computer with a password, change the name of the copier to that name. Turn on password protected sharing. Make sure the new user is an admin account.

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    • MFPs R Now PCs
      MFP Tech & I.T. Manager

      100+ Posts
      • Jul 2011
      • 156

      #3
      Re: bizhubC454e Cannot Scan via SMB to Windows 10

      Originally posted by copier addict
      Make sure computer's network location is either "Work" or "Private". Make sure password protected sharing is off.
      If that doesn't work, try creating another user on the computer with a password, change the name of the copier to that name. Turn on password protected sharing. Make sure the new user is an admin account.
      I guess I missed listing some things in my troubleshooting methodology:

      Network is set to Work/Private (Yes/Verified/ALWAYS) <-TOP ISSUE with customers saying I cant scan to my computer (it's on Public)

      Password Protected Sharing ON (Yes/Verifed)
      Create Another ADMIN User/Profile (Tried this too)



      Trying with Password Protected Sharing OFF Now (with a LogOFF/LogON).... Result - Failed (Server Connect Error)
      Tried Turning Off the "HomeGroup/Let Windows Manage" by switching to "Use User Accounts & Passwords" - Failed

      -THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP THOUGH!
      Last edited by MFPs R Now PCs; 05-02-2018, 12:25 AM. Reason: forgot to add detail/s
      It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop. –Confucius

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      • Copier Addict
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        #4
        Re: bizhubC454e Cannot Scan via SMB to Windows 10

        Originally posted by MFPs R Now PCs
        I guess I missed listing some things in my troubleshooting methodology:

        Network is set to Work/Private (Yes/Verified/ALWAYS) <-TOP ISSUE with customers saying I cant scan to my computer (it's on Public)

        Password Protected Sharing ON (Yes/Verifed)
        Create Another ADMIN User/Profile (Tried this too)



        Trying with Password Protected Sharing OFF Now (with a LogOFF/LogON).... Result - Failed (Server Connect Error)
        Tried Turning Off the "HomeGroup/Let Windows Manage" by switching to "Use User Accounts & Passwords" - Failed

        -THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP THOUGH!
        Do you have the network error code being displayed? It is a numerical code the can narrow the problem down.

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        • bsm2
          IT Manager

          25,000+ Posts
          • Feb 2008
          • 27451

          #5
          Re: bizhubC454e Cannot Scan via SMB to Windows 10

          Windows has disable SMB1 scanning do to security issues. On recent updates

          Use filezilla server on windows 10 machines or konica ftp utility

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          • Woxner
            Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • Jul 2011
            • 810

            #6
            Re: bizhubC454e Cannot Scan via SMB to Windows 10

            you can set this to use smb2 and it might work. you will need to changea soft sw to enable

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            • MFPs R Now PCs
              MFP Tech & I.T. Manager

              100+ Posts
              • Jul 2011
              • 156

              #7
              Re: bizhubC454e Cannot Scan via SMB to Windows 10

              It's Windows 10 HOME see -> Scan to folder windows 10

              Is THAT a problem that it's HOME not Pro now? GREAT!

              Any thought there, please?
              It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop. –Confucius

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              • Qball
                Trusted Tech

                100+ Posts
                • Jun 2013
                • 127

                #8
                Re: bizhubC454e Cannot Scan via SMB to Windows 10

                Originally posted by bsm2
                Windows has disable SMB1 scanning do to security issues. On recent updates

                Use filezilla server on windows 10 machines or konica ftp utility

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                • bsm2
                  IT Manager

                  25,000+ Posts
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 27451

                  #9
                  Re: bizhubC454e Cannot Scan via SMB to Windows 10

                  Originally posted by Qball
                  We’ve seen a lot of this. If you go to control panel and select programs and features then select turn windows features on and off, scroll down to the SMB 1.0 box. Check all the boxes within. Click okay then reboot the pc. This will get SMB 1.0 back online. Just for laughs, I’ll create a new self signed certificate on the MFP, as well. Typically this gets things moving again.


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                  Turning SMB1 back ON is NOT RECOMMENDED

                  Microsoft's position on Server Message Block version 1 (SMB 1) in Windows systems is that organizations should just get rid of it.


                  That position has become crystal clear after SMB 1 proved to be a conduit for a ransomware outbreak this week. The ransomware, dubbed "WannaCry," used leaked hacking-tool code, purportedly from the U.S. National Security Agency, that targeted a Windows SMB 1 flaw. One of the "owners of SMB" at Microsoft, Ned Pyle, a principal program manager in the Windows Server high availability and storage group, had warned about continuing to use SMB 1 back in September in a TechNet article titled, "Stop Using SMB 1."

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                  • MFPs R Now PCs
                    MFP Tech & I.T. Manager

                    100+ Posts
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 156

                    #10
                    Re: bizhubC454e Cannot Scan via SMB to Windows 10

                    Originally posted by bsm2
                    Turning SMB1 back ON is NOT RECOMMENDED

                    Microsoft's position on Server Message Block version 1 (SMB 1) in Windows systems is that organizations should just get rid of it.


                    That position has become crystal clear after SMB 1 proved to be a conduit for a ransomware outbreak this week. The ransomware, dubbed "WannaCry," used leaked hacking-tool code, purportedly from the U.S. National Security Agency, that targeted a Windows SMB 1 flaw. One of the "owners of SMB" at Microsoft, Ned Pyle, a principal program manager in the Windows Server high availability and storage group, had warned about continuing to use SMB 1 back in September in a TechNet article titled, "Stop Using SMB 1."
                    Thank you for this comment as security is needed for customer requirements AND our liabilities.
                    It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop. –Confucius

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                    • mo0651
                      Service Manager

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                      • Apr 2009
                      • 1054

                      #11
                      Re: bizhubC454e Cannot Scan via SMB to Windows 10

                      Have your authorized Konica Minolta rep upgrade the firmware and special firmware to use SMB 2.0 & 3.0.

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