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  • srvctec
    Former KM Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Oct 2009
    • 827

    #16
    Re: BizHub C554 paper jam at fuser exit

    Originally posted by blackcat4866
    The 30-03 is clutch CL8. Have one on hand before you disassemble. It will take a bit of work. And make sure that you change the correct clutch. There are two clutches in the exit unit. =^..^=

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    Did my first one the other day on a C454e (the very first one in our service department, in fact) and had to take a clutch off another machine to get the customer's working. I was dreading it after reading your detailed instructions from the pdf a few weeks ago. Turns out it's really not that bad and I believe I can now do a clutch swap of CL8 in a half hour or less. I found numerous shortcuts in my initial foray into this task and several more when the new clutch I installed in the donor machine, squeaked. Had to take it apart again and learned some more valuable info to shorten the process. I wonder if I should start a thread on how to quickly replace one of these clutches. Anyway, just thought I'd throw in my .02 worth on the CL8 replacement saga.














    Geez, I wish they would actually make the clutch much higher quality knowing they have issues. Even the newest clutch isn't made any better than the original one.
    Started in the copier service business in the fall of 1988 and worked at the same company for 33.5 years, becoming the senior tech in 2004 but left to pursue another career on 4/29/22.

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    • copyman
      Owner / Technician

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      2,500+ Posts
      • Sep 2005
      • 4546

      #17
      Re: BizHub C554 paper jam at fuser exit

      Originally posted by srvctec
      Did my first one the other day on a C454e (the very first one in our service department, in fact) and had to take a clutch off another machine to get the customer's working. I was dreading it after reading your detailed instructions from the pdf a few weeks ago. Turns out it's really not that bad and I believe I can now do a clutch swap of CL8 in a half hour or less. I found numerous shortcuts in my initial foray into this task and several more when the new clutch I installed in the donor machine, squeaked. Had to take it apart again and learned some more valuable info to shorten the process. I wonder if I should start a thread on how to quickly replace one of these clutches. Anyway, just thought I'd throw in my .02 worth on the CL8 replacement saga.

      Geez, I wish they would actually make the clutch much higher quality knowing they have issues. Even the newest clutch isn't made any better than the original one.
      Yea I was thinking that clutch was going to be at least 1 hr job. Can you remember and share any of the shortcuts? Since I have more than one hundred 4 series in service I will be replacing some of these clutches sooner or later, hopefully later!
      Guess I'm still spooked from the "3" series models. Dreaded working on the rear and having to take the rear cage off, then the main drive unit, etc, etc, just to replace motors. Found a few shortcuts but not many, one of my shortcuts was leaving half the screws out! Ridiculous how many screws the Japs use. Think they are still "screwing" us from WWII

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      • srvctec
        Former KM Senior Tech

        500+ Posts
        • Oct 2009
        • 827

        #18
        Re: BizHub C554 paper jam at fuser exit

        Originally posted by copyman
        Yea I was thinking that clutch was going to be at least 1 hr job. Can you remember and share any of the shortcuts? Since I have more than one hundred 4 series in service I will be replacing some of these clutches sooner or later, hopefully later!
        Guess I'm still spooked from the "3" series models. Dreaded working on the rear and having to take the rear cage off, then the main drive unit, etc, etc, just to replace motors. Found a few shortcuts but not many, one of my shortcuts was leaving half the screws out! Ridiculous how many screws the Japs use. Think they are still "screwing" us from WWII
        Check your PM. Didn't want the short, relatively easy instructions here for the whole world to see, potentially allowing someone to not hire a tech.
        Started in the copier service business in the fall of 1988 and worked at the same company for 33.5 years, becoming the senior tech in 2004 but left to pursue another career on 4/29/22.

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        • copytech,mike
          CopyTech,MIKE

          250+ Posts
          • Jun 2014
          • 254

          #19
          Re: BizHub C554 paper jam at fuser exit

          Yes, its clutch cl8

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          • tmmdmmm
            Trusted Tech

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            100+ Posts
            • Apr 2021
            • 173

            #20
            Re: BizHub C554 paper jam at fuser exit

            Originally posted by srvctec
            Check your PM. Didn't want the short, relatively easy instructions here for the whole world to see, potentially allowing someone to not hire a tech.
            Can I steal that PDF from you? Had a CL8 in my car for a while and looks like I'll need it on an upcoming call. Its a 554 but figure it'll be practically the same. Expecting a ton of rust

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            • fishleg
              Trusted Tech

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              250+ Posts
              • Mar 2009
              • 426

              #21
              Re: BizHub C554 paper jam at fuser exit

              Originally posted by EarthKmTech
              Check the gray roller in the unit at the top of the side door isnt tight to turn - it destroys the clutch that drives it (inside the fusing drive unit)

              You may also notice iron oxide accumulation dropping out of this clutch, visible on the fusing drive disengagement finger at the rear side of the second transfer door.

              The bushings are a regular point of lubrication on all machines of this engine style, along with the registration bushings.

              Fortunately the clutch is easy to change in the 554 without having to remove the fusing drive unit.

              Paper will be accordion jamming at fuser exit when this is the issue.
              What lube are you using on the bearings? Haven't really found one that lasts? My go to is a dry ptfe. I can't find anything that will take the heat of the fusing unit and the paper dust at the registration.

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              • copytech,mike
                CopyTech,MIKE

                250+ Posts
                • Jun 2014
                • 254

                #22
                Re: BizHub C554 paper jam at fuser exit

                Originally posted by printprocc
                Thank you 3ktlc! I went thru that entire section and made sure everything was moving easily and properly...I am further investigating cl8! I have a feeling that is where my troubles are but have another machine im working on that is desperately needed.

                Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
                I did all that and it still jams.

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                • srvctec
                  Former KM Senior Tech

                  500+ Posts
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 827

                  #23
                  Re: BizHub C554 paper jam at fuser exit

                  Originally posted by tmmdmmm
                  Can I steal that PDF from you? Had a CL8 in my car for a while and looks like I'll need it on an upcoming call. Its a 554 but figure it'll be practically the same. Expecting a ton of rust
                  Check your PMs.
                  Started in the copier service business in the fall of 1988 and worked at the same company for 33.5 years, becoming the senior tech in 2004 but left to pursue another career on 4/29/22.

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                  • ferro10
                    Trusted Tech

                    100+ Posts
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 109

                    #24
                    Re: BizHub C554 paper jam at fuser exit

                    Originally posted by srvctec
                    Check your PMs.
                    Hello I am also experiencing the same problem on a C554E almost certainly it is the cl8 full of rust. You can pass the PDF in private thank you very much

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                    • srvctec
                      Former KM Senior Tech

                      500+ Posts
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 827

                      #25
                      Re: BizHub C554 paper jam at fuser exit

                      Originally posted by ferro10
                      Hello I am also experiencing the same problem on a C554E almost certainly it is the cl8 full of rust. You can pass the PDF in private thank you very much
                      PM sent.
                      Started in the copier service business in the fall of 1988 and worked at the same company for 33.5 years, becoming the senior tech in 2004 but left to pursue another career on 4/29/22.

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                      • ferro10
                        Trusted Tech

                        100+ Posts
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 109

                        #26
                        Re: BizHub C554 paper jam at fuser exit

                        Originally posted by srvctec
                        Check your PMs.
                        thank you

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                        • kamilosio123
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2016
                          • 1

                          #27
                          Re: BizHub C554 paper jam at fuser exit

                          Hello. Can I also ask for this pdf because I am waiting for the replacement of cl8 in C554e ... Thank you in advance

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                          • ferro10
                            Trusted Tech

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                            • Jun 2015
                            • 109

                            #28
                            Re: BizHub C554 paper jam at fuser exit

                            Originally posted by kamilosio123
                            Hello. Can I also ask for this pdf because I am waiting for the replacement of cl8 in C554e ... Thank you in advance
                            I send you in private what I have

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                            • JeryNino
                              Junior Member
                              • Nov 2019
                              • 3

                              #29
                              Re: BizHub C554 paper jam at fuser exit

                              Originally posted by ferro10
                              I send you in private what I have

                              ​Hello! Unfortunately, I have a similar problem (Few J32-05 per day) . The standard procedure for replacing the CL8 clutch makes me sad; any little help would be greatly appreciated. Could I also request a PDF? Thank you very much!

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                              • copytech,mike
                                CopyTech,MIKE

                                250+ Posts
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 254

                                #30
                                Re: BizHub C554 paper jam at fuser exit

                                Originally posted by printprocc
                                Recently replaced the fuser unit due to degraded heat roller. Dropped in new fuser and the machine ran fine for roughly 100 clicks (letter size) then jammed at the fuser exit. Several attempts using different weight and size paper have all failed. The paper seems fine within the fuser and the image is fused properly, it just wont transfer to the next section for completion. Not getting an error code either. It seems as though the transfer section isn't being actuated but I can't really be sure.

                                Paul
                                I cant say that i ever really totally solved this problem. Its a really horrible jam problem on all these models. Make sure you take a close look at the sensor and flag assembly inside that duplexer/turnaround unit thats mounted on the right side door. Play with it and make sure that flag isnt sticky. Its also a real bear to replace it. If your creative you can do it without ever taking that door off. Sometimes you might break the photo sensor trying to pull the connector lose and thus i always order extra flags and sensors. So far i had that flag problem (actuator black plastic) on the Biz C368 models. Also, the Biz C554 is getting to be a really old machine im thinking.

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