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  • Bix
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Apr 2018
    • 1421

    Transfer belt screws complicated to put back

    Hi, I want to consult with you.


    Am I the only one who has problems putting the transfer belt screws back in some models? The left one enters and screws without problems while the one on the right is a real problem.


    To open the best, I remove the blocks of the door but the screwdriver still remains slightly inclined and this I think that involves the difficulty in screwing the screw.


    On the newer machines I have less of this problem because the door opens a lot more while for example in the bizhub C280, bizhub 364 etc. this problem is more common.


    Any suggestions to facilitate screwing of the right screw?
  • Copier Addict
    Aging Tech

    Site Contributor
    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2013
    • 13052

    #2
    Re: Transfer belt screws complicated to put back

    I just hold the latch in with my left hand and install the screw with my right. I don't recall having any problems with it.

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    • KMFLT3CH
      Trusted Tech

      100+ Posts
      • May 2017
      • 181

      #3
      Re: Transfer belt screws complicated to put back

      The older models like C360 and C364e have two black door stops, one at the top and one at the bottom, as well as another door stop/cover in the middle.

      On the 4 and 4e series it should be a clear cover held in with one screw, and on the older C360 series it's a large black cover held in with two screws.

      You can remove that center cover as well and the door will swing out over a lot more. I always leave all 3 of them out.

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      • Toxic
        Senior Tech

        500+ Posts
        • Dec 2009
        • 690

        #4
        Re: Transfer belt screws complicated to put back

        Does anybody read service manual procedures sometimes...
        For C220/C280...clearly states you must remove rear right cover and right door hinge and then you can open door almost full and remove transfer belt screws without any problem or risk to damage it.
        Personaly i never remove that way but use short screwdriver for removing right screw which is harder to remove.

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        • Copier Addict
          Aging Tech

          Site Contributor
          10,000+ Posts
          • Jul 2013
          • 13052

          #5
          Re: Transfer belt screws complicated to put back

          Originally posted by KMFLT3CH
          The older models like C360 and C364e have two black door stops, one at the top and one at the bottom, as well as another door stop/cover in the middle.

          On the 4 and 4e series it should be a clear cover held in with one screw, and on the older C360 series it's a large black cover held in with two screws.

          You can remove that center cover as well and the door will swing out over a lot more. I always leave all 3 of them out.
          On the C360 series, leaving the door stop off allows the door to contact the large serial connectors behind the door. I never leave the door stop off. Rather remove some screws than have to replace an MFP board because the door hit those connectors too hard.

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          • MVPunisher
            Trusted Tech

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            100+ Posts
            • May 2013
            • 209

            #6
            Re: Transfer belt screws complicated to put back

            Can also come in at angle with screwdriver, but start the screw with your hand to prevent cross threading.

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            • copier tech
              Field Supervisor

              5,000+ Posts
              • Jan 2014
              • 7934

              #7
              Re: Transfer belt screws complicated to put back

              Originally posted by Bix
              Hi, I want to consult with you.


              Am I the only one who has problems putting the transfer belt screws back in some models? The left one enters and screws without problems while the one on the right is a real problem.


              To open the best, I remove the blocks of the door but the screwdriver still remains slightly inclined and this I think that involves the difficulty in screwing the screw.


              On the newer machines I have less of this problem because the door opens a lot more while for example in the bizhub C280, bizhub 364 etc. this problem is more common.


              Any suggestions to facilitate screwing of the right screw?
              Remove the two black stoppers & the clear one the door then swings open further allowing easy access to the rear screw. A good tech has more than one screwdriver!
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              • Copier Addict
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                • Jul 2013
                • 13052

                #8
                Re: Transfer belt screws complicated to put back

                Originally posted by copier tech
                Remove the two black stoppers & the clear one the door then swings open further allowing easy access to the rear screw. A good tech has more than one screwdriver!
                I'm sure even bad techs have more than one screwdriver. Lol

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                • KMFLT3CH
                  Trusted Tech

                  100+ Posts
                  • May 2017
                  • 181

                  #9
                  Re: Transfer belt screws complicated to put back

                  Originally posted by copier addict
                  I'm sure even bad techs have more than one screwdriver. Lol
                  Reminds me of a tech that we used to have - He would walk into accounts with only a medium length screwdriver and a dirty dust rag in his back pocket, no toolbag or anything else. He didn't last too long.

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                  • Bix
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 1421

                    #10
                    Re: Transfer belt screws complicated to put back

                    Of course I removed those blocks! In fact, if you read, I have also written it:
                    Originally posted by Bix
                    To open the best, I remove the blocks of the door but the screwdriver still remains slightly inclined and this I think that involves the difficulty in screwing the screw.
                    In the bizhub C280 even I removed the plug of the screen to allow 1-2cm more aperture. The problem is that these blocks do not allow a complete opening, in fact the screwdriver still remains slightly inclined.


                    This, sometimes, especially in old MFPs, makes unscrewing and screwing difficult.


                    I think I will take inspiration from the idea of @MVPunisher

                    Originally posted by copier tech
                    Remove the two black stoppers & the clear one the door then swings open further allowing easy access to the rear screw. A good tech has more than one screwdriver!
                    I have more than one screwdriver but the space is very small. I also tried with a small screwdriver but it does not fit

                    Thank you all for the support!

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                    • REGSIS
                      Trusted Tech

                      250+ Posts
                      • May 2016
                      • 434

                      #11
                      Re: Transfer belt screws complicated to put back

                      Additionally.... for c220 280 360
                      Remove transfer roller, gently push the door little bit more to get extra space and use longer PH2 screwdriver.

                      For 4&8 series no problems.

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