C227 / C287 jamming on colour (J30-03)

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  • byronf
    Senior Member

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    • Sep 2017
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    [Jamming] C227 / C287 jamming on colour (J30-03)

    Hi All,

    I have a few of these on the field, we have been replacing fusing units prematurely due to the separation claws breaking. What I notice on these machines is that the client say the jam a lot when they print in color. So I have monitored a few of them and found J30-03 occurs frequently on the machine that break claw. It is obvious that the colour print stick to the fusing roller.

    I have bumped the temperature up but have had no luck I even updated the firmware to G00-W2 with no luck.

    If anybody has had this issue please enlighten me or if there is a part number for the claws.

    Any advice will be appreciated. Thank you[/B][/B]
  • Brett GS
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Jun 2013
    • 154

    #2
    Re: C227 / C287 jamming on colour (J30-03)

    Had this on a few.
    Give you a call tomorow.

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    • Toxic
      Senior Tech

      500+ Posts
      • Dec 2009
      • 690

      #3
      Re: C227 / C287 jamming on colour (J30-03)

      On what media and format this occurs?
      I do not know if I'm doing wrong all the time but I think the fuser temperature should be lowered rather than increase to help paper not sticking in fuser...

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      • blackcat4866
        Master Of The Obvious

        Site Contributor
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        • Jul 2007
        • 22702

        #4
        Re: C227 / C287 jamming on colour (J30-03)

        On heavy fill images it helps to increase the leading edge void to 4.0mm - 5.0mm. If you duplex, the same applies to the trail edge void. =^..^=
        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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        • allan
          RTFM!!

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          • Apr 2010
          • 5445

          #5
          Re: C227 / C287 jamming on colour (J30-03)

          Originally posted by Brett GS
          Had this on a few.
          Give you a call tomorow.
          Fix for the issue?
          Whatever

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          • byronf
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            • Sep 2017
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            #6
            Re: C227 / C287 jamming on colour (J30-03)

            Originally posted by Toxic
            On what media and format this occurs?
            I do not know if I'm doing wrong all the time but I think the fuser temperature should be lowered rather than increase to help paper not sticking in fuser...
            This is on normal 80gsm bond. Tried losing the fuser temp as well and the issue still persist.

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            • byronf
              Senior Member

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              • Sep 2017
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              #7
              Re: C227 / C287 jamming on colour (J30-03)

              Originally posted by blackcat4866
              On heavy fill images it helps to increase the leading edge void to 4.0mm - 5.0mm. If you duplex, the same applies to the trail edge void. =^..^=
              Hi I will try this, however it my cause an issue on the field where end users my log calls for image not centralized.

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              • Bix
                Service Manager

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                • Apr 2018
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                #8
                Re: C227 / C287 jamming on colour (J30-03)

                What is the page counter?

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                • byronf
                  Senior Member

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                  • Sep 2017
                  • 109

                  #9
                  Re: C227 / C287 jamming on colour (J30-03)

                  Originally posted by Bix
                  What is the page counter?
                  13355 clicks
                  But bare in mind that this issue is an intermittent problem across all my machine's

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                  • allan
                    RTFM!!

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                    • Apr 2010
                    • 5445

                    #10
                    Re: C227 / C287 jamming on colour (J30-03)

                    Then its damp paper?
                    Whatever

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                    • byronf
                      Senior Member

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                      • Sep 2017
                      • 109

                      #11
                      Re: C227 / C287 jamming on colour (J30-03)

                      Originally posted by allan
                      Then its damp paper?
                      At first that what the techs kept advising the client, until I bought the one machine in and used it daily for office use to test.

                      Bare in mind these machines +/- 600 belong to one client and 60% of these machines all the end users are complaining about the jamming only on colour prints

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                      • blackcat4866
                        Master Of The Obvious

                        Site Contributor
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                        • Jul 2007
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                        #12
                        Re: C227 / C287 jamming on colour (J30-03)

                        Originally posted by byronf
                        Hi I will try this, however it my cause an issue on the field where end users my log calls for image not centralized.
                        Can you try rephrasing that? I missed the point. =^..^=
                        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                        • byronf
                          Senior Member

                          100+ Posts
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 109

                          #13
                          Re: C227 / C287 jamming on colour (J30-03)

                          Originally posted by blackcat4866
                          Can you try rephrasing that? I missed the point. =^..^=
                          We have checked the paper for moisture and the problem still persists.

                          We have about 600 of these machines in the city council and they are all doing this.

                          I have brought one of the machines into our office that we are using daily for testing purposes and it intermittently jams only on colour prints.

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                          • blackcat4866
                            Master Of The Obvious

                            Site Contributor
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                            • Jul 2007
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                            #14
                            Re: C227 / C287 jamming on colour (J30-03)

                            I'm not going to try to convince you. You can make the adjustments or not.

                            I don't really care if you have 6 machines, 60, 600 or 6000. That doesn't change the answer. =^..^=
                            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                            • byronf
                              Senior Member

                              100+ Posts
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 109

                              #15
                              Re: C227 / C287 jamming on colour (J30-03)

                              Hi All,

                              This issue has been resolved.

                              I used separation fingers from C454e to repair the fuser.

                              Changed warm mode to 4
                              Put toner save mode on

                              It has been a month and the client has not had any issues


                              Thank you all for your help much appreciated

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