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  • patrickjlc
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    • Feb 2015
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    [CQ] External counter install

    Us it possible to install an external counter and switch on the bizhub c364? Like to enable copier for selfservice use on store?

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  • Bix
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    • Apr 2018
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    #2
    Re: External counter install

    Hi, I don't understand your question well.


    Maybe you want to limit the use of the printer? If the answer is yes, you can create "account track". This function allows you to trace the counter of each "account" and to limit certain functions.

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    • JDYAL
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      • Sep 2008
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      #3
      Re: External counter install

      I use to work for a company that did convenience copies (convenience stores, Walmart,Ect.) We always installed a switch (on/off) that had a meter also behind the counter of the store. The switch could allow copying by putting the machine in standby while also having a electronic meter to count copies. Not sure where you can get one but it is possible. We had these on older analog Mita and Savin machines and this was almost 20 years ago.

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      • patrickjlc
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        • Feb 2015
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        #4
        Re: External counter install

        Originally posted by JDYAL
        I use to work for a company that did convenience copies (convenience stores, Walmart,Ect.) We always installed a switch (on/off) that had a meter also behind the counter of the store. The switch could allow copying by putting the machine in standby while also having a electronic meter to count copies. Not sure where you can get one but it is possible. We had these on older analog Mita and Savin machines and this was almost 20 years ago.
        Yes, that is what i want. I would like to install that or a coinop machine.

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        • JDYAL
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          • Sep 2008
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          #5
          Re: External counter install

          Personally the coin op is the way to go. Had plenty of these in Post Offices. The only problem is keeping the coin op working. People love to put more than coins in the slot. There are several companies that make coin ops for copiers. You just have to Google and find what you're looking for, or maybe someone else on CTN may have a vendor they use.

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          • JDYAL
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            • Sep 2008
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            #6
            Re: External counter install

            CM4000_Coin_Control_unit_leaflet.pdf




            Here is an example.

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            • oldschool
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              • Mar 2007
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              #7
              Re: External counter install

              We sell a remote copy counter that is used in a lot of UPS stores. It's called a True Count. It's basically a box with a button to enable the copier and sits next to the cash register. As copies are made the counts show up on the True Count. It will show count color copies separate from B/W copies. We have Vend Stations as well. I believe these can also be purchased directly through Konica Minolta or from us. I show the True Count number as (7640014087) but I can't find the Konica Minolta number for the vend station
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              • emujo2
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                • Mar 2017
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                #8
                Re: External counter install

                My UPS stores in the area have several solutions..

                1. EX Trans..(credit card reader)
                2. Account Track- they give access codes to after hours customers
                3. External analog counter..the receptical is added to the MFP vendor plug, enable in vendor mode, and cut the loopback wire..mech counter completes the circuit and increments for each copy that flags the fuser exit sensor.

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                • oldschool
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                  • Mar 2007
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                  #9
                  Re: External counter install

                  I did want to mention that the True count uses the Vendor II connection and not the key counter connection as the key counter doesn't really differentiate between color and B/W copies. For a B/W only machine you could still use a True Count connected to the key counter but any mechanical counter would work just fine. No matter where you end up getting your solution, be sure the manufacturer uses the Vendor II interface if you want to separate color from B/W. If the customer doesn't care then the key counter is the best option. Also to note, on most Konica Minolta machines the vendor II mode disables banner printing. If the customer uses that feature, The key counter option is the best route.
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                  • patrickjlc
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                    • Feb 2015
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                    #10
                    Re: External counter install

                    Originally posted by oldschool
                    We sell a remote copy counter that is used in a lot of UPS stores. It's called a True Count. It's basically a box with a button to enable the copier and sits next to the cash register. As copies are made the counts show up on the True Count. It will show count color copies separate from B/W copies. We have Vend Stations as well. I believe these can also be purchased directly through Konica Minolta or from us. I show the True Count number as (7640014087) but I can't find the Konica Minolta number for the vend station
                    I use those vend stations with my Mita and Taskalfa machines, but recently started getting the Konica machines, and wanted to use the coin op on them. Thanks for the help.

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