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  • funkyhead
    Technician
    • Jan 2020
    • 14

    Toner smear,lines on prints..Help!!!

    Hi All,

    Great Fan of this site as always been,

    Attached are the images of my issues with the printer.
    Its a konica C258,with page count of 62352,
    Drum Average of 55%

    Machine had been printing good. but couple of days now have been facing the yellow toner smear problem. started with a toner change, tried with changing the toner cartridge head as well.
    but have no relief.

    Kindly help with your invaluable suggestions,guidance,knowledge.

    Thank you
    Regards,
    Gautam
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  • tsbservice
    Field tech

    Site Contributor
    5,000+ Posts
    • May 2007
    • 7634

    #2
    Re: Toner smear,lines on prints..Help!!!

    Time to step up and from great fan befome Contributor
    As Contributors tend to pull the best from experts here.
    Just saying...
    A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
    Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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    • Phil B.
      Field Supervisor

      10,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2016
      • 22808

      #3
      Re: Toner smear,lines on prints..Help!!!

      Originally posted by funkyhead
      Hi All,

      Great Fan of this site as always been,

      Attached are the images of my issues with the printer.
      Its a konica C258,with page count of 62352,
      Drum Average of 55%

      Machine had been printing good. but couple of days now have been facing the yellow toner smear problem. started with a toner change, tried with changing the toner cartridge head as well.
      but have no relief.

      Kindly help with your invaluable suggestions,guidance,knowledge.

      Thank you
      Regards,
      Gautam
      what is " the toner cartridge head "?

      have you got the page counts on ALL supplies?

      when were they install?

      how long have you had it?

      sometimes life % isn't that reliable due to age of the parts.

      how about uploading examples of the issue?

      are you an end user?

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      • Copier Addict
        Aging Tech

        Site Contributor
        10,000+ Posts
        • Jul 2013
        • 13037

        #4
        Re: Toner smear,lines on prints..Help!!!

        Is the paper being fed LEF or SEF?

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        • funkyhead
          Technician
          • Jan 2020
          • 14

          #5
          Re: Toner smear,lines on prints..Help!!!

          Originally posted by Phil B.
          what is " the toner cartridge head "?

          have you got the page counts on ALL supplies?

          when were they install?

          how long have you had it?

          sometimes life % isn't that reliable due to age of the parts.

          how about uploading examples of the issue?

          are you an end user?
          Yes i am an end user..toner head is the black cap,which could have been faulty and a reason fro toner smear.
          will upload the rest of details tomrw.
          thank you for the reply Phil

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          • funkyhead
            Technician
            • Jan 2020
            • 14

            #6
            Re: Toner smear,lines on prints..Help!!!

            Yes i am an end user..toner head is the black cap,which could have been faulty and a reason fro toner smear.
            will upload the rest of details tomrw.
            thank you for the reply Phil

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            • emujo2
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • Mar 2017
              • 1580

              #7
              Re: Toner smear,lines on prints..Help!!!

              This is a fault with drum, dev, x-fer belt or print head..If you were talking about a 20 year old machine I'd say go for it..but this is pretty new..My advice is to call a certified KM tech..Think you are going to be spending a large amount of money, but this is nothing compared to how badly you can break it trying to DIY..E

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              • funkyhead
                Technician
                • Jan 2020
                • 14

                #8
                Re: Toner smear,lines on prints..Help!!!

                Originally posted by emujo2
                This is a fault with drum, dev, x-fer belt or print head..If you were talking about a 20 year old machine I'd say go for it..but this is pretty new..My advice is to call a certified KM tech..Think you are going to be spending a large amount of money, but this is nothing compared to how badly you can break it trying to DIY..E
                I dont want to DIY, Just want to understand what might be the problem, have already called for a technician. just dont want to waste a lot of time keeping the machine shut..loosing business.
                i am a mechanical engineer by academics. so always thrive for problem solutions and knowledge.
                Thanks for the reply.

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                • blackcat4866
                  Master Of The Obvious

                  Site Contributor
                  10,000+ Posts
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 22696

                  #9
                  Re: Toner smear,lines on prints..Help!!!

                  Since the yellow bars are through the voids and at about drum interval, I'm going to take a WAG that it fed SEF (short edge feed) and that you've got a primary charge loss situation. Most likely you'll have to replace the yellow imaging unit.

                  But first: Confirm that this page was printed LTR-R, SEF. =^..^=
                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                  • funkyhead
                    Technician
                    • Jan 2020
                    • 14

                    #10
                    Re: Toner smear,lines on prints..Help!!!

                    Originally posted by blackcat4866
                    Since the yellow bars are through the voids and at about drum interval, I'm going to take a WAG that it fed SEF (short edge feed) and that you've got a primary charge loss situation. Most likely you'll have to replace the yellow imaging unit.

                    But first: Confirm that this page was printed LTR-R, SEF. =^..^=
                    its SEF fed

                    imaging unit? kindly elaborate
                    thanks for the reply

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                    • Phil B.
                      Field Supervisor

                      10,000+ Posts
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 22808

                      #11
                      Re: Toner smear,lines on prints..Help!!!

                      Originally posted by funkyhead
                      its SEF fed imaging unit?
                      image unit = drum/pcdu or what ever is applicable to your unit.

                      for you... drum

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                      • Phil B.
                        Field Supervisor

                        10,000+ Posts
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 22808

                        #12
                        Re: Toner smear,lines on prints..Help!!!

                        Originally posted by funkyhead
                        I dont want to DIY, Just want to understand what might be the problem, have already called for a technician. just dont want to waste a lot of time keeping the machine shut..loosing business.
                        i am a mechanical engineer by academics. so always thrive for problem solutions and knowledge.
                        Thanks for the reply.
                        FYI... the 'end caps' on the toner IMHO would NEVER give this type problem. But 31yrs in industry, what do I know?

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                        • funkyhead
                          Technician
                          • Jan 2020
                          • 14

                          #13
                          Re: Toner smear,lines on prints..Help!!!

                          Originally posted by Phil B.
                          image unit = drum/pcdu or what ever is applicable to your unit.

                          for you... drum
                          can the toner be a problem?
                          and what about the banding ?or lines?
                          thanks for the reply

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                          • emujo2
                            Service Manager

                            1,000+ Posts
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 1580

                            #14
                            Re: Toner smear,lines on prints..Help!!!

                            You have a color banding (yellow) issue, it could be drum or HVT power supply. less chance of a developer issue based on your samples. Your tech will put the machine in service mode and start printing out test jobs to narrow down the fault..Don't know how old your machine is, but ensure you hear that vacuum running, clogged toner filters can cause issues on this series, but it does look a discharge issue, meaning the drum charge is being fully dissipated in one area as the drum turns resulting in incorrect toner attraction. New machines are modular and the entire drum section will need to be replaced. E

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                            • tsbservice
                              Field tech

                              Site Contributor
                              5,000+ Posts
                              • May 2007
                              • 7634

                              #15
                              Re: Toner smear,lines on prints..Help!!!

                              Originally posted by funkyhead
                              I dont want to DIY, Just want to understand what might be the problem, have already called for a technician. just dont want to waste a lot of time keeping the machine shut..loosing business.
                              i am a mechanical engineer by academics. so always thrive for problem solutions and knowledge.
                              Thanks for the reply.
                              Post consumables life counters and machine counter. From what you described qualified tech should fix it in first visit.
                              A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                              Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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