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  • Gael
    Technician
    • Oct 2019
    • 18

    Paper size detection problem konica C220

    Hi,
    A Konica C220 does not detect the correct paper size. He tells me it's A5 instead of A4.
    If you don't have a solution, is it possible to manually set the paper size?

    I'm sorry I don't speak English very well

    Any suggestions are welcome.

  • Bix
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Apr 2018
    • 1421

    #2
    Re: Paper size detection problem konica C220

    Hi, there are two possibilities:
    1. The piece of plastic in the back of the tray has broken.
    2. After a jam, something is left in the back of the tray
    3. Something is wrong with the paper size detector photocell.


    the first hypothesis is more probable because perhaps the tray was violently closed. A solution could be to simulate the shape of the broken piece with paper on the photocell.

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    • Copier Addict
      Aging Tech

      Site Contributor
      10,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2013
      • 13042

      #3
      Re: Paper size detection problem konica C220

      Make sure the paper guides in the tray are centred. Close the guides all the way and look to see if one is closer to the centre lift tray.
      It can be adjusted by loosening the screws and moving the entire guide assembly either forward or back until they are both the same distance from the centre lift tray

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      • Gael
        Technician
        • Oct 2019
        • 18

        #4
        Re: Paper size detection problem konica C220

        Originally posted by Bix
        Hi, there are two possibilities:
        1. The piece of plastic in the back of the tray has broken.
        2. After a jam, something is left in the back of the tray
        3. Something is wrong with the paper size detector photocell.


        the first hypothesis is more probable because perhaps the tray was violently closed. A solution could be to simulate the shape of the broken piece with paper on the photocell.

        Thank you. I have attached photos


        1. The piece of plastic in the back of the tray has broken. ==> i don't think the piece is broken
        2. After a jam, something is left in the back of the tray ==> I don't think so
        3. Something is wrong with the paper size detector photocell ==> I don't know
        Attached Files

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        • Gael
          Technician
          • Oct 2019
          • 18

          #5
          Re: Paper size detection problem konica C220

          Originally posted by copier addict
          Make sure the paper guides in the tray are centred. Close the guides all the way and look to see if one is closer to the centre lift tray.
          It can be adjusted by loosening the screws and moving the entire guide assembly either forward or back until they are both the same distance from the centre lift tray

          I adjusted the paper guides but I still have the same problem
          Attached Files

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          • tech51
            Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • Jan 2009
            • 846

            #6
            Re: Paper size detection problem konica C220

            The rear guide in the tray can bend outwards over time causing the actuator attached to it to miss the sensors it goes in to. Bend it so the guide is 90 degrees to the tray base.

            Also the plastic holder the actuator goes into can break, also causing paper size errors.

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            • galdu26
              Junior Member
              • Sep 2014
              • 4

              #7
              Re: Paper size detection problem konica C220

              Originally posted by Gael
              Hi,
              A Konica C220 does not detect the correct paper size. He tells me it's A5 instead of A4.
              If you don't have a solution, is it possible to manually set the paper size?

              I'm sorry I don't speak English very well

              Any suggestions are welcome.


              look for the size sensor's beside the elevation motor..clean it.. only in A4 lef o A4sef??

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              • Gael
                Technician
                • Oct 2019
                • 18

                #8
                Re: Paper size detection problem konica C220

                Originally posted by galdu26
                look for the size sensor's beside the elevation motor..clean it.. only in A4 lef o A4sef??
                I clean it and I still have the same problem.


                The problem is only in A4 LEF. I have the same problem with the second trays

                In A4 SEF i have another problem, i always have paper jam problems. He can't pull the paper

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                • Gael
                  Technician
                  • Oct 2019
                  • 18

                  #9
                  Re: Paper size detection problem konica C220

                  Originally posted by tech51
                  The rear guide in the tray can bend outwards over time causing the actuator attached to it to miss the sensors it goes in to. Bend it so the guide is 90 degrees to the tray base.

                  Also the plastic holder the actuator goes into can break, also causing paper size errors.
                  Where is "the rear guide " ?

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                  • Gaffers01
                    Trusted Tech

                    Site Contributor
                    250+ Posts
                    • May 2011
                    • 329

                    #10
                    Re: Paper size detection problem konica C220

                    Also check at the front right hand side of the paper tray as this can be cracked and cause this problem.

                    Try bending the silver bit that comes out the back of the tray up a little bit and see if that helps.

                    These machine are well known for this issue, so you might be better off getting an engineer to sort the problem.

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                    • tech51
                      Senior Tech

                      500+ Posts
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 846

                      #11
                      Re: Paper size detection problem konica C220

                      Originally posted by Gael
                      Where is "the rear guide " ?
                      The side guide towards the rear of the machine.

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                      • galdu26
                        Junior Member
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 4

                        #12
                        Re: Paper size detection problem konica C220

                        Originally posted by Gael
                        Thank you. I have attached photos


                        1. The piece of plastic in the back of the tray has broken. ==> i don't think the piece is broken
                        2. After a jam, something is left in the back of the tray ==> I don't think so
                        3. Something is wrong with the paper size detector photocell ==> I don't know

                        look for the specific areas selected..the module look's folded20200206_172251[1].jpgand the black holders looks broken or bend..

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                        • mattcoop11
                          Technician
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 12

                          #13
                          Re: Paper size detection problem konica C220



                          Problem will more than likely be with the part highlighted, if you take it off, it will more than likely have a crack on the top part of the plastic where the screw and spring goes through.


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                          • Slammers
                            Technician

                            50+ Posts
                            • Feb 2019
                            • 54

                            #14
                            Re: Paper size detection problem konica C220

                            Hi, I have had the same issue.

                            Root cause: Wiring harness that connects to the detection photocells in the rear of the machine had been dislodged over time and eventually the tray guide started hitting off one of the cables, eventually breaking it.

                            You will have to remove the MFP Board and HV board to get to the wiring harness. Inspect cables for damage and replace.

                            May NOT be your problem, but sometimes you've got to dig a bit further. Took me hours of swapping trays, sensors, fingers etc until I went in from the other side.

                            Good Luck!

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