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  • progoffice
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Nov 2008
    • 328

    Has anybody ever seen this before?

    I'm currently troubleshooting a strange issue on a Muratec MFX-C5590 (Konica Minolta C558). Please see the attached sample. Copies are fine, print jobs from the User Box are fine, meter counts are fine, management lists are fine, gradation prints are fine, but network print jobs have lines, demo page has lines and configuration page has lines. I've never seen this before. I can restart the machine and things go back to normal, but the issue comes back. Hotline seems to think it's the MFP board, but I wanted to see if anywhere here has been down this road before.
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  • emujo2
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Mar 2017
    • 1580

    #2
    Re: Has anybody ever seen this before?

    Image processiing for scanned images is done separatly from the print processing, however the image procssing board controls both. I would start here, but it's gonna be a big $$$ as everything is done on the main board. E

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    • D_L_P
      Self Employed

      1,000+ Posts
      • Oct 2009
      • 1196

      #3
      Re: Has anybody ever seen this before?

      Not seen that exact pattern before, but have had similar issue. Remove the RAM, clean it with alcohol, and reseat it. If that doesn't work try replacing the memory.
      I've seen RAM cause diagonal lines similar to what you have. Another time it looked like snow/static on an old TV, but just in random places on the page, and then only from internal prints. Copies and regular prints were fine.

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      • tsbservice
        Field tech

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        5,000+ Posts
        • May 2007
        • 7635

        #4
        Re: Has anybody ever seen this before?

        This is very interesting. Never seen pattern like this but run full diagnostic and start from there. Unfortunately as Ed said it's gonna be expensive, my guess is also MFPB.
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        • blackcat4866
          Master Of The Obvious

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          10,000+ Posts
          • Jul 2007
          • 22698

          #5
          Re: Has anybody ever seen this before?

          I have seen something like this from a bizhub C353. It was ONLY the bird test sheet. All other functions were normal. Since it was so narrowly limited I never looked more fully into it. =^..^=
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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          • Copier repairman
            Technician
            • Aug 2019
            • 85

            #6
            Re: Has anybody ever seen this before?

            This is a bad internal memory of the MFP board.
            Frequent repairs.
            Entering into service mode If self-diagnosis is executed, NG is generated in work1.

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            • progoffice
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              • Nov 2008
              • 328

              #7
              Re: Has anybody ever seen this before?

              Originally posted by Copier repairman
              This is a bad internal memory of the MFP board.
              Frequent repairs.
              Entering into service mode If self-diagnosis is executed, NG is generated in work1.
              I ran the self-diagnosis, but everything came back OK. I'm leaning towards replacing the MFP board.

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              • Copier repairman
                Technician
                • Aug 2019
                • 85

                #8
                Re: Has anybody ever seen this before?

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                This is a bad internal memory of the MFP board.
                Frequent repairs.

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                • progoffice
                  Trusted Tech

                  250+ Posts
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 328

                  #9

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                  • tec
                    Junior Member
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 7

                    #10
                    Re: Has anybody ever seen this before?

                    Remove the dual scan image processing board at test, had similar and was ok when DSIP board was removed.

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                    • allan
                      RTFM!!

                      5,000+ Posts
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 5445

                      #11
                      Re: Has anybody ever seen this before?

                      Originally posted by Copier repairman
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                      This is a bad internal memory of the MFP board.
                      Frequent repairs.
                      Do you just re-flow the solder on the RAM chips or do you replace them?
                      Whatever

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                      • Zesti
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                        • Jun 2009
                        • 308

                        #12
                        Re: Has anybody ever seen this before?

                        Have had some kind of issues on C451-C452 series machines, some one above mentioned the internal RAM and I recon the same. But replacing the MFPB seems logical and you can try on the replacing the RAMS later....

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                        • progoffice
                          Trusted Tech

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                          • Nov 2008
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                          #13
                          Re: Has anybody ever seen this before?

                          I replaced the MFPB today. I won't know for a while if this fixed my issue or not. As of now, things are printing fine.

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                          • Copier repairman
                            Technician
                            • Aug 2019
                            • 85

                            #14
                            Re: Has anybody ever seen this before?

                            [QUOTE = allan; 1280555] RAM 칩에 솔더를 리플 로우하거나 교체합니까? [/ QUOTE]
                            Repaired by replacing the ram chip.

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                            • progoffice
                              Trusted Tech

                              250+ Posts
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 328

                              #15
                              Re: Has anybody ever seen this before?

                              So the customer called back today and reported the same issue. I'll stop by tomorrow to confirm, but any other things you guys can think of that I can check on while I'm there? MFP board has already been replaced.

                              Thanks in advance.

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