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  • Keenkeener
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    • Sep 2020
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    C452 error c-11a1 with grinding noise in fs-527 finisher

    I recently purchased the fs-527 finisher that includes the saddle Stitcher for my c452. When I try to print with it installed, I get a grinding noise in the finisher and error code c11a1. Any suggestions? I have another finisher that I do not get this issue with. Thanks!
  • GIUBOSS
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    Re: C452 error c-11a1 with grinding noise in fs-527 finisher

    welcome, are you a technician or an end customer?
    -The Exit Roller Home Position Sensor (PC12-FN) is not blocked
    even after the set period of time has elapsed after the Exit Open/
    Close Motor (M6-FN) is energized (beginning of pressure opera-
    tion).
    -The Exit Roller Home Position Sensor (PC12-FN) is not unblocked
    even after the set period of time has elapsed after the Exit Open/
    Close Motor (M6-FN) is energized (beginning of retraction opera-
    tion).

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    • Keenkeener
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      • Sep 2020
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      #3
      Re: C452 error c-11a1 with grinding noise in fs-527 finisher

      Originally posted by GIUBOSS
      welcome, are you a technician or an end customer?
      -The Exit Roller Home Position Sensor (PC12-FN) is not blocked
      even after the set period of time has elapsed after the Exit Open/
      Close Motor (M6-FN) is energized (beginning of pressure opera-
      tion).
      -The Exit Roller Home Position Sensor (PC12-FN) is not unblocked
      even after the set period of time has elapsed after the Exit Open/
      Close Motor (M6-FN) is energized (beginning of retraction opera-
      tion).
      im the end customer (and technician in this case only lol)

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      • blazebusiness
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        • Apr 2010
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        #4
        Re: C452 error c-11a1 with grinding noise in fs-527 finisher

        Originally posted by Keenkeener
        I recently purchased the fs-527 finisher that includes the saddle Stitcher for my c452. When I try to print with it installed, I get a grinding noise in the finisher and error code c11a1. Any suggestions? I have another finisher that I do not get this issue with. Thanks!
        That exit roller pressure / retraction mechanism has to be able to engage and disengage. You can watch it move looking inside the paper exit area. My first step would be watch it move and try and see what is blocking or interfering with the movement causing noise.
        sigpicAnything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough- San Diego Copier Repair.com

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        • Keenkeener
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          • Sep 2020
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          #5
          Re: C452 error c-11a1 with grinding noise in fs-527 finisher

          Originally posted by blazebusiness
          That exit roller pressure / retraction mechanism has to be able to engage and disengage. You can watch it move looking inside the paper exit area. My first step would be watch it move and try and see what is blocking or interfering with the movement causing noise.

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          • GIUBOSS
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            #6
            Re: C452 error c-11a1 with grinding noise in fs-527 finisher

            Try lubricating the steel axes where the stapler moves. There is probably a out-of-stage section or a sensor not activated, comparison with the other functioning finisher.

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            • Keenkeener
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              #7
              Re: C452 error c-11a1 with grinding noise in fs-527 finisher

              Originally posted by GIUBOSS
              Try lubricating the steel axes where the stapler moves. There is probably a out-of-stage section or a sensor not activated, comparison with the other functioning finisher.
              Great suggestion. Nothing is jumping out at me just yet as they seem very similar.

              Where do you suggest I get a service manual for this model?

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              • GIUBOSS
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                Re: C452 error c-11a1 with grinding noise in fs-527 finisher

                Originally posted by Keenkeener
                Great suggestion. Nothing is jumping out at me just yet as they seem very similar.

                Where do you suggest I get a service manual for this model?
                On this site in the Request Technical Manuals and Parts section, you will be ahead if you contribute I think ...

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                • blazebusiness
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                  Re: C452 error c-11a1 with grinding noise in fs-527 finisher

                  Originally posted by Keenkeener
                  Great suggestion. Nothing is jumping out at me just yet as they seem very similar.

                  Where do you suggest I get a service manual for this model?
                  You could PM me your email address if you want to for a google drive download link to the manual.
                  sigpicAnything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough- San Diego Copier Repair.com

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                  • Keenkeener
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                    • Sep 2020
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                    #10
                    Re: C452 error c-11a1 with grinding noise in fs-527 finisher

                    Thanks for all the help.

                    Upon further inspection, I think the worm gear is a bit worse than I thought. When I remove the motor and gear, the exit gate, door, or whatever you call it seems to move freely up and down.

                    Where would I go to find this part number and what is the best resource for purchasing this kind of part?

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                    • blazebusiness
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                      #11
                      Re: C452 error c-11a1 with grinding noise in fs-527 finisher

                      Originally posted by Keenkeener
                      Thanks for all the help.

                      Upon further inspection, I think the worm gear is a bit worse than I thought. When I remove the motor and gear, the exit gate, door, or whatever you call it seems to move freely up and down.

                      Where would I go to find this part number and what is the best resource for purchasing this kind of part?
                      The link I sent you includes the parts manual. With the part number you can find most parts online.
                      sigpicAnything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough- San Diego Copier Repair.com

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                      • Keenkeener
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                        #12
                        Re: C452 error c-11a1 with grinding noise in fs-527 finisher

                        Success!

                        I replaced
                        A0HR-8044-00 22T Gear and A0HR-A896-11 Pressure Touching Alienation Motor / M9

                        and that did it. No trouble now. It was simply a couple of stripped gears.

                        Thank you for all of your help!!

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                        • blazebusiness
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                          #13
                          Re: C452 error c-11a1 with grinding noise in fs-527 finisher

                          Originally posted by Keenkeener
                          Success!

                          I replaced
                          A0HR-8044-00 22T Gear and A0HR-A896-11 Pressure Touching Alienation Motor / M9


                          and that did it. No trouble now. It was simply a couple of stripped gears.

                          Thank you for all of your help!!
                          Very glad you're up and running.
                          Last edited by blazebusiness; 09-08-2020, 01:01 PM.
                          sigpicAnything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough- San Diego Copier Repair.com

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