Looking at selling Konica Minolta.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Looking at selling Konica Minolta.

More MFP awards from BLI for 2020

Two Vendors Take Home BLI Winter 2020 Pick Awards from Keypoint Intelligence in the Copier MFP Category

Winter 2020

01/07/2020





The BLI Winter 2020 Copier MFP Pick awards go to the following exceptional devices*:


KYOCERA TASKalfa 7003i
Outstanding 70-ppm Copier MFP
(also sold under the Copystar brand)

KYOCERA TASKalfa 8003i
Outstanding 80-ppm Copier MFP
(also sold under the Copystar brand)

KYOCERA TASKalfa 9003i
Outstanding 90-ppm Copier MFP
(also sold under the Copystar brand)


Sharp MX-2651
Outstanding 26-ppm Color Copier MFP

Sharp MX-3071
Outstanding 30-ppm Color Copier MFP

Sharp MX-3571
Outstanding 35-ppm Color Copier MFP

Sharp MX-4071
Outstanding 40-ppm Color Copier MFP

Sharp MX-5071
Outstanding 50-ppm Color Copier MFP

Sharp MX-6071
Outstanding 60-ppm Color Copier MFP

Sharp MX-M2651
Outstanding 26-ppm Copier MFP

Sharp MX-M3071
Outstanding 30-ppm Copier MFP

Sharp MX-M3571
Outstanding 35-ppm Copier MFP

Sharp MX-M4071
Outstanding 40-ppm Copier MFP

Sharp MX-M5071
Outstanding 50-ppm Copier MFP

Sharp MX-M6071
Outstanding 60-ppm Copier MFP

* Not all products are sold in all regions.


Kyocera Crushes It in the High-Range Monochrome Copier MFP Spaces


Sharp Shines Across Copier MFP Segments

[blackcat4866]

Re: Looking at selling Konica Minolta.

Did you ever notice that there are just as many awards as there are models of MFP's? It makes one think that it's just another sales device with little actual significance.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Looking at selling Konica Minolta.

Did you ever notice that there are just as many awards as there are models of MFP's? It makes one think that it's just another sales device with little actual significance.

Not what I've found with my experience with BLI. All I sell/service is Kyocera. And they've been pretty spot on with their analysis. Yeah, a couple of Kyocera B&W models won an award, but that's about it. Other vendors crushed Kyocera. I couldn't tell you about the awards won by Canon and Sharp. I know from talking to businesses that have them, they seem very happy.

[allan]

Re: Looking at selling Konica Minolta.

Konica Minolta took the awards for there color equipment a good couple of times.

Looking at the BH423 i had to go sort out today. Over 2mil on the clock, that is 3 times the engine life.
Still running between PM times. Today the fuser drive motor gear striped out.
The new BH958 is nothing less than amazing.

The Sharp machines are superb, but around here there is no serious dealerships and have gained a horrible reputation.
Could get the used production like machine for almost free but poor parts inventory and high cost of consumables
makes it a no-go.

Boy do i like my KM 951/1052/1250 pro and press machines.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Looking at selling Konica Minolta.

Konica Minolta took the awards for there color equipment a good couple of times.

Looking at the BH423 i had to go sort out today. Over 2mil on the clock, that is 3 times the engine life.
Still running between PM times. Today the fuser drive motor gear striped out.
The new BH958 is nothing less than amazing.

The Sharp machines are superb, but around here there is no serious dealerships and have gained a horrible reputation.
Could get the used production like machine for almost free but poor parts inventory and high cost of consumables
makes it a no-go.

Boy do i like my KM 951/1052/1250 pro and press machines.

Yep. Thought you might like to read this. Not only did KM win best line of the year in 2011, they also won an additional 4 awards later that year. That's just the first thing I pulled up. Not sure for years later than 2011.

Outstanding Performance of bizhub Color and Monochrome MFPs Earns Four Additional “Pick” Awards from Leading Industry Analyst




Konica Minolta has been recognized with four A3 “Pick” Awards.
BLI recognized Konica Minolta with the following awards:
“Line of the Year” – A3/Ledger Color and Monochrome MFPs
bizhub 423 – “Pick” Award winner for Outstanding 41- to 50-ppm A3/Ledger Monochrome MFP
bizhub 363 – “Pick” Award winner for Outstanding 31- to 40-ppm A3/Ledger Monochrome MFP
bizhub 283 – “Pick” Award winner for Outstanding 21- to 30-ppm A3/Ledger Monochrome MFP
bizhub 223 – “Pick” Award winner for Outstanding 21- to 30-ppm A3/Ledger Monochrome MFP

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Looking at selling Konica Minolta.

Konica Minolta won BLI Line of the Year for an unprecidented 4-years in a row. That has never happened in the history of BLI. But the last one was in 2014, I believe:



For the first time in the decades-long history of BLI's awards, a manufacturer has won the A3 MFP Line of the Year Award for a fourth consecutive year.





In addition, Konica Minolta has won 5 additional Pick awards for the following models:




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[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Looking at selling Konica Minolta.

Did you ever notice that there are just as many awards as there are models of MFP's? It makes one think that it's just another sales device with little actual significance.

Copier manufacturers have to supply a test copier at No Charge, deliver it, pick it up, supply toner at No Charge, pay to have the copier tested and pay to publish any awards in each and every country where the awards have the right to be displayed.

What do you think? Of course, it is marketing.

Toshiba Canada discontinued offering free access to BLI to our dealers because the costs kept getting higher and BLI was not responsive to our requests for many years. We now offer free access to DataMaster at a much lower cost and with 2 delay delivery of requests. At first I was skeptical but at a time due to COVID-19 when companies have to either cut costs or reduce staff or both, it was a no brainer. Not one dealer complained.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Looking at selling Konica Minolta.

Copier manufacturers have to supply a test copier at No Charge, deliver it, pick it up, supply toner at No Charge, pay to have the copier tested and pay to publish any awards in each and every country where the awards have the right to be displayed.

What do you think? Of course, it is marketing.

That's an interesting take. And exactly how does any of that influence who BLI picks as winners? Doesn't add up.

I'm not saying that BLI is the end-all, be-all, but we shouldn't dismiss it because it's not what we want.

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Looking at selling Konica Minolta.

Sharp does seem to be entering a new phase. Foxconn basically saved Sharp from the oblivion a few years ago and manufacturers all Sharp copiers. Sharp announced this week that they are replacing seven current Sharp models with relabelled Lexmark product.

No one knows what that indicates going on behind the scene. It does mean that Sharp dealers will now have to sell and service two completely different operating systems. To be fair, I am sure many Sharp dealers are currently also Lexmark dealers.

COVID-19 hit all copier manufacturers hard. Optimistic budgets based on pre COVID thinking went out the window the last six months and many more months into the future as the strength of COVID infections continue to rise world wide.

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Looking at selling Konica Minolta.

That's an interesting take. And exactly how does any of that influence who BLI picks as winners? Doesn't add up.

I'm not saying that BLI is the end-all, be-all, but we shouldn't dismiss it because it's not what we want.

It is not a take, it is how the copier ratings industry works. No money, no reviews, no awards. BLI only picks winners from their paid reviews.

BLI is a business owned by another business that has to report to its shareholders. BLI is not a benevolent organization that exists for the glorification of the imaging industry.

In Canada, if you want to sell to the Federal gov't, the largest purchaser of copiers in the country, each copier model # that you submit has to be first reviewed by a 3rd party at a cost of $5,000.00 ea. If a copier vendor has four identical models all at different speeds, that costs $20,000.00.

If you do not pay, you do not get listed, therefore, you cannot sell to the Federal gov't. Probably the same in the USA and other countries.

As Federal gov't pricing is extremely to crazy low, there is often little chance of recouping your up front investment costs.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Looking at selling Konica Minolta.

It is not a take, it is how the copier ratings industry works. No money, no reviews, no awards. BLI only picks winners from their paid reviews.

Dude, all major copier manufactures submit their machines to BLI for testing. They all play by the same rules. The playing field is level. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous.

Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise? No?

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Looking at selling Konica Minolta.

Dude, all major copier manufactures submit their machines to BLI for testing. They all play by the same rules. The playing field is level. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous.

Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise? No?

I work for the manufacturer in Sales & Marketing at the HQ Corporate level. You are being naive. All machines are definitely not submitted. The only rule is money talks. The playing field only cares about money and review selection has nothing to do with fairness.

Do some manufacturers consider a paid service like BLI an investment. Certainly. Some customers are mildly influenced by 3rd party reviews.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Looking at selling Konica Minolta.

I work for the manufacturer. You are being naive. All machines are definitely not submitted. The only rule is money talks. The playing field only cares about money.

Carry on, sir.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Looking at selling Konica Minolta.

I work for the manufacturer in Sales & Marketing at the HQ Corporate level. You are being naive. All machines are definitely not submitted. The only rule is money talks. The playing field only cares about money and review selection has nothing to do with fairness.

Do some manufacturers consider a paid service like BLI an investment. Certainly. Some customers are mildly influenced by 3rd party reviews.

I see you edited your post. Allow me to repsond.

The other day, you told me you do 20 face-to-face cold calls per day. You work in the corporate world and they're sending you out on 20 face-to-face cold calls per day? Interesting.

I dunno. It demonstrates all the classic symptoms of your ordinary copier salesman. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Looking at selling Konica Minolta.

I see you edited your post. Allow me to repsond.

The other day, you told me you do 20 face-to-face cold calls per day. You work in the corporate world and they're sending you out on 20 face-to-face cold calls per day? Interesting.

I dunno. It demonstrates all the classic symptoms of your ordinary copier salesman. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I am a Sales Manager who works with outside dealer sales reps who are expected to make on average 20 face to face sales calls per day. I do personally make 2+ sales calls per day. Today, I sold six copiers to three customers and attended one install plus TeamView-ed one remote label printer install.

Fortunately, I work in an area of Canada that restricts easy access from other residents of Canada. You are welcome to visit but you must mandatory, self quarantine for 14 days at your expense and a written plan with daily calls from health officials checking on you location via land line. Canada's border with the USA remains closed to non essential visitors.

Atlantic Canada, due to its unique geographic borders, is often referred to as the little New Zealand of Canada during Covid times. Tourism is traditionally a big industry here. The number of visitors are way down with great economic cost but accepted as necessary.

You seem to be stretching for something that is not there.

As Canadians, we freely give up some freedoms for the benefit of others. For example, locally wearing masks is extremely common in public even though the threat of COVID-19 is very low. No new infections in the last 15 days.