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  • zackrch
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2018
    • 8

    KM 458e- Black box when scanning only

    Hello, Has anyone ever had a problem when scanning there will be a black box in the middle of the paper?Using konica model B/W 458E.This is happen only if use for scan other than that nothing wrong.I have reconnect the ccd cable,prcb cable and all other cable that connect to the scanner unit and also i already upgrade latest firmware.


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  • Zesti
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Jun 2009
    • 308

    #2
    Re: KM 458e- Black box when scanning only

    What about copying????
    Scanning from ADF or Glass????

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    • zackrch
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2018
      • 8

      #3
      Re: KM 458e- Black box when scanning only

      Scan using adf or glass same problem but copying is okay, my conclusion is the mfpb problem.

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      • Bix
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Apr 2018
        • 1421

        #4
        Re: KM 458e- Black box when scanning only

        Originally posted by zackrch
        Scan using adf or glass same problem but copying is okay, my conclusion is the mfpb problem.
        Why MFPB? I'd look for something wrong with the scanner first.

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        • tsbservice
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          • May 2007
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          #5
          Re: KM 458e- Black box when scanning only

          Disconnect DF and remove dual scan board. Does it scan correct that way?
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          • acusso1234
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            250+ Posts
            • Dec 2008
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            #6
            Re: KM 458e- Black box when scanning only

            ... In the minute that you're thinking of giving up, think about why you lasted so long ...

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            • allan
              RTFM!!

              5,000+ Posts
              • Apr 2010
              • 5445

              #7
              Re: KM 458e- Black box when scanning only

              So LEF on the glass and DF?
              Alway in the same position?

              Main scan line failure?
              Whatever

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              • zackrch
                Junior Member
                • Jan 2018
                • 8

                #8
                Re: KM 458e- Black box when scanning only

                I guess mfpb problem because when I scan to the userbox and I zoom in on the machine there will be a picture like a damaged TV when i the zoom out it will disappear, if i print from the userbox all is fine.I changed ram/eMMcb and hdd already but no luck.

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                • Zesti
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                  • Jun 2009
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                  #9
                  Re: KM 458e- Black box when scanning only

                  Originally posted by zackrch
                  I guess mfpb problem because when I scan to the userbox and I zoom in on the machine there will be a picture like a damaged TV when i the zoom out it will disappear, if i print from the userbox all is fine.I changed ram/eMMcb and hdd already but no luck.

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                  Couldn't got it..... scan in user box showing pixels on preview but when print from box print is fine??????

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                  • zackrch
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2018
                    • 8

                    #10
                    Re: KM 458e- Black box when scanning only

                    Originally posted by Zesti
                    Couldn't got it..... scan in user box showing pixels on preview but when print from box print is fine??????
                    Yes correct but my senior said change scanner board first if still same then proceed mfpb

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                    • tsbservice
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                      • May 2007
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                      #11
                      Re: KM 458e- Black box when scanning only

                      Originally posted by zackrch
                      Yes correct but my senior said change scanner board first if still same then proceed mfpb
                      What's wrong about trying it without dual scan board?
                      A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                      Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                      • zackrch
                        Junior Member
                        • Jan 2018
                        • 8

                        #12
                        Re: KM 458e- Black box when scanning only

                        Originally posted by tsbservice
                        What's wrong about trying it without dual scan board?
                        What do you mean? If i take out the board how can i scan?

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                        • Zesti
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                          #13
                          Re: KM 458e- Black box when scanning only

                          Scanner board is for dual scanner DADF only. But the problem is also showing from glass. Am I right???

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                          • mearmi
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                            • Oct 2010
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                            #14
                            Re: KM 458e- Black box when scanning only

                            Originally posted by zackrch
                            What do you mean? If i take out the board how can i scan?
                            tsbservice means

                            Disconnect the Document Feeder and Remove Dual Scan Board from the machine and scan from Platen Glass.

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                            • tsbservice
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                              #15
                              Re: KM 458e- Black box when scanning only

                              Originally posted by zackrch
                              What do you mean? If i take out the board how can i scan?
                              You claimed problem from both glass and DF right? Without DF you still should be able to scan from glass.
                              A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                              Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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