Konica Minolta Bizhub 225i Abnormal noise when copy/scan (Outer Erase Check Fails).

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  • satisfactionbg
    Technician
    • Jan 2018
    • 12

    Konica Minolta Bizhub 225i Abnormal noise when copy/scan (Outer Erase Check Fails).

    Hi guys.
    We already have several of these machines in the field, but some of them failed to pass the Outer Erase Check. The produced copy has a background.
    I tried darkening the room, Holding the ADF down in place while copying, but no result. Well, to be fair the Outer Erase Check passed in a pitch-black room, but who can work like that .
    Any ideas on how to get rid of the background? It seems like this is not the greatest ADF ever made.

    PS> It does it when operating both from ADF and Glass.
  • Bix
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Apr 2018
    • 1421

    #2
    Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 225i Abnormal noise when copy/scan (Outer Erase Check Fails

    Have you tried to update the firmware?

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    • satisfactionbg
      Technician
      • Jan 2018
      • 12

      #3
      Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 225i Abnormal noise when copy/scan (Outer Erase Check Fails

      Not really. I see there is newer firmware
      G01-05
      which says it is solving the issue with the loud ADF, but I'll give it a go. Thank you.

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      • Bix
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Apr 2018
        • 1421

        #4
        Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 225i Abnormal noise when copy/scan (Outer Erase Check Fails

        There are also problems with SMB. Updating is recommended

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        • johnnydr
          Junior Member
          • May 2018
          • 6

          #5
          Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 225i Abnormal noise when copy/scan (Outer Erase Check Fails

          Originally posted by satisfactionbg
          Not really. I see there is newer firmware
          G01-05
          which says it is solving the issue with the loud ADF, but I'll give it a go. Thank you.

          Hi,

          Did you solved this problem whit firmware update ??

          I have exacatly same problem, whit five new Bh 225i machine ... all of them have background copy problem.

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          • Synthohol
            Certified Konica Expert

            Site Contributor
            5,000+ Posts
            • Mar 2016
            • 5463

            #6
            Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 225i Abnormal noise when copy/scan (Outer Erase Check Fails

            Originally posted by satisfactionbg
            Hi guys.
            Well, to be fair the Outer Erase Check passed in a pitch-black room, but who can work like that .
            everyone!
            when we setup machines in the warehouse we always have to dim the lights for the non image erase check.
            its not like it has to happen all the time.
            We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
            The medication helps though...

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            • johnnydr
              Junior Member
              • May 2018
              • 6

              #7
              Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 225i Abnormal noise when copy/scan (Outer Erase Check Fails

              As I said, I've setup five new 225i, all of them pass perfectly non image erase check. But all of them had this background copy problem, only when I made copy thru ADF ( DF 633 ). When I copy on glass, everything is fine.

              I'm going to do a firmware upgrade but I think that the problem is gonig to remain. We'll see

              We sell aprox one hundred Bizhub 215 & Bizhub 226 and no problem at all, but this Bizhub 225i series going to insane me.
              Last edited by johnnydr; 07-01-2021, 07:07 PM.

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              • Synthohol
                Certified Konica Expert

                Site Contributor
                5,000+ Posts
                • Mar 2016
                • 5463

                #8
                Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 225i Abnormal noise when copy/scan (Outer Erase Check Fails

                how is the ground at the outlet?
                i can sadly only offer general advice as that model is not available here across the great pond.
                We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                The medication helps though...

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                • johnnydr
                  Junior Member
                  • May 2018
                  • 6

                  #9
                  Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 225i Abnormal noise when copy/scan (Outer Erase Check Fails

                  The ground at the putlet is good, I've tested that.
                  In fact, I've move one copier to the other location and the problem is the same.

                  As I said, I will try whit a firmware upgrade but my hope on that is minimal

                  We will see, I'll write the solution here if I find it.

                  Best regards from Croatia !!

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                  • REGSIS
                    Trusted Tech

                    250+ Posts
                    • May 2016
                    • 434

                    #10
                    Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 225i Abnormal noise when copy/scan (Outer Erase Check Fails

                    Originally posted by johnnydr
                    As I said, I've setup five new 225i, all of them pass perfectly non image erase check.
                    All 5 levels showed OK result?
                    What have you done to achive that?

                    I've set up dozens of these and usually left it with Level 1,2,3 OK and level 4,5 NG.

                    On the last one it was too bright and all levels were NG.
                    I had to take drastic measures and use ADF box to cover the machine with it to block the light completly.
                    All 5 levels showed OK result.

                    Never had problems with the background.

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                    • johnnydr
                      Junior Member
                      • May 2018
                      • 6

                      #11
                      Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 225i Abnormal noise when copy/scan (Outer Erase Check Fails

                      Yep, all 5 show OK.
                      I go to my "dark room" to do Non Erase Check for this model it must be more dark then bright room for this model.

                      Anyway, I did the firmware update but no result.

                      But I found solution ... this background problem is manifest when you do copy on "Text" mode ... when you switch to "Text/Photo" mode evreything is fine

                      So I setup all device to "Text/Photo" mode ( Utillity / Copy settings 1 / Quality Priority set to Text Photo ) and there is no background copy problem. Better this then nothing ... but still I don't like this 225i series

                      The Bizhub 215 is the best model in this class for me, no problem at all for years since we sell them.

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                      • fntsy
                        Technician

                        Site Contributor
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 26

                        #12
                        Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 225i Abnormal noise when copy/scan (Outer Erase Check Fails

                        Hi, we have installed about 50 machines on the field and found an easy solution for the background problem
                        Go to Utility - Machine Setting - [DENSITY(ADF)] and set it to Mode2

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