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  • HarryBurgess
    Technician
    • Oct 2019
    • 25

    [Misc] c3350 Splattering black all over prints - Yet comes out as black on halftone tests.

    Hi, got a c3350 that when printing anything leaves a black splatter all across the page. So I go to do the halftone test prints and all colours come out ok (still with the splatter) however the black halftone comes out as a blank piece of paper.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
  • blackcat4866
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    • Jul 2007
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    #2
    Re: c3350 Splattering black all over prints - Yet comes out as black on halftone test

    sample?
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • copiertec
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      • Jan 2016
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      #3
      Re: c3350 Splattering black all over prints - Yet comes out as black on halftone test

      Not only would a sample be nice, but a little more info on machine and PM counts nice as well. Is the toner OEM or generic?

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      • HarryBurgess
        Technician
        • Oct 2019
        • 25

        #4
        Re: c3350 Splattering black all over prints - Yet comes out as black on halftone test

        Originally posted by blackcat4866
        sample?
        Here is a magenta and black halftone test print, what appears on the magenta appears on all other prints.
        Attached Files

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        • HarryBurgess
          Technician
          • Oct 2019
          • 25

          #5
          Re: c3350 Splattering black all over prints - Yet comes out as black on halftone test

          Originally posted by copiertec
          Not only would a sample be nice, but a little more info on machine and PM counts nice as well. Is the toner OEM or generic?
          We received the copier off a supplier filled with OEM toners. We usually remanufacture them and send them back out. I can't find the counts as nothing shows when printing black pages except as shown on the attached image.
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          • blazebusiness
            SanDiegoCopierRepair.com

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            • Apr 2010
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            #6
            Re: c3350 Splattering black all over prints - Yet comes out as black on halftone test

            Originally posted by HarryBurgess
            Here is a magenta and black halftone test print, what appears on the magenta appears on all other prints.
            Check consumable status under the Utility key. Is the K image unit overdue?


            Inspect the surface of the Black image unit , Transfer belt , and fuser unit to see if there are any marks or residue that correspond to what you see on the prints.

            This issue will probably be resolved for you by replacing the Black image unit Part# IUP-22K
            sigpicAnything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough- San Diego Copier Repair.com

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            • copiertec
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              #7
              Re: c3350 Splattering black all over prints - Yet comes out as black on halftone test

              I would start with a black pcu, first. Is there a supplies status page available? Have you gone into the menu, counter icon?

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              • HarryBurgess
                Technician
                • Oct 2019
                • 25

                #8
                Re: c3350 Splattering black all over prints - Yet comes out as black on halftone test

                Originally posted by blazebusiness
                Check consumable status under the Utility key. Is the K image unit overdue?


                Inspect the surface of the Black image unit , Transfer belt , and fuser unit to see if there are any marks or residue that correspond to what you see on the prints.

                This issue will probably be resolved for you by replacing the Black image unit Part# IUP-22K
                I have replaced the fuser previously and it had no effect. I don't think it could be the transfer belt as it appears to be only k having this problem. I have just swapped the black imaging unit and the print has gone inverted. As seen in the image attatched.
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                • HarryBurgess
                  Technician
                  • Oct 2019
                  • 25

                  #9
                  Re: c3350 Splattering black all over prints - Yet comes out as black on halftone test

                  Originally posted by copiertec
                  I would start with a black pcu, first. Is there a supplies status page available? Have you gone into the menu, counter icon?
                  I have swapped the k imaging unit twice and still the same result, and as for the supplies status page everything seems to be normal. The copier itself has done around 60k prints in total so not extremely high. I was thinking it could may be to do with the charge?

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                  • blackcat4866
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                    Re: c3350 Splattering black all over prints - Yet comes out as black on halftone test

                    Originally posted by HarryBurgess
                    I have replaced the fuser previously and it had no effect. I don't think it could be the transfer belt as it appears to be only k having this problem. I have just swapped the black imaging unit and the print has gone inverted. As seen in the image attatched.
                    The unit that made these images probably has wrong toner in it.

                    The original unit probably is just worn out. You'll see the pattern in the drum when you remove it.

                    =^..^=I
                    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                    • HarryBurgess
                      Technician
                      • Oct 2019
                      • 25

                      #11
                      Re: c3350 Splattering black all over prints - Yet comes out as black on halftone test

                      Originally posted by blackcat4866
                      The unit that made these images probably has wrong toner in it.

                      The original unit probably is just worn out. You'll see the pattern in the drum when you remove it.

                      =^..^=I
                      So what are you suggesting I do to resolve this? As I haven't had any luck with new drums and I'm not sure that a new toner would work.

                      Also how come it is appearing on every print? Even the ones without any black.

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                      • blackcat4866
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                        • Jul 2007
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                        Re: c3350 Splattering black all over prints - Yet comes out as black on halftone test

                        The black drum remains in contact with the primary transfer belt on all images, and the imaging unit components rotate on every image.

                        By contrast a B&W only image is made only with the black imaging unit, the other color units do not rotate.

                        I'm sorry that your afraid to install a new black imaging unit, but that's whats needed. =^..^=

                        You know, I get the feeling that you're not comfortable doing this repair. That's fine. I'm sure there's someone in your area capable of doing it.
                        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          #13
                          Re: c3350 Splattering black all over prints - Yet comes out as black on halftone test

                          Originally posted by HarryBurgess
                          So what are you suggesting I do to resolve this? As I haven't had any luck with new drums and I'm not sure that a new toner would work.

                          Also how come it is appearing on every print? Even the ones without any black.

                          I agree with blackcat that it looks like the wrong toner was used. You say that the toners are OEM but that doesn't mean that the OEM carts. weren't refilled with compatible toner. You need to clean all the black toner out before installing a new drum. Just make sure no toner is in the toner pipe before installing a new drum.
                          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                          • HarryBurgess
                            Technician
                            • Oct 2019
                            • 25

                            #14
                            Re: c3350 Splattering black all over prints - Yet comes out as blank on halftone test

                            Originally posted by blackcat4866
                            The black drum remains in contact with the primary transfer belt on all images, and the imaging unit components rotate on every image.

                            By contrast a B&W only image is made only with the black imaging unit, the other color units do not rotate.

                            I'm sorry that your afraid to install a new black imaging unit, but that's whats needed. =^..^=

                            You know, I get the feeling that you're not comfortable doing this repair. That's fine. I'm sure there's someone in your area capable of doing it.
                            Afraid? I've stated that I have already done what you are telling me to do twice and there has been no change. I don't think you quite understand what I am saying.

                            I could probably install a new imaging unit before I knew how to tie my laces as a kid

                            But your time and help is appreciated nonetheless.

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                            • blackcat4866
                              Master Of The Obvious

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                              #15
                              Re: c3350 Splattering black all over prints - Yet comes out as black on halftone test

                              Have it your way. I have nothing more to add.
                              =^..^=
                              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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