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  • Konicatech
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    • Feb 2016
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    [Misc] Bizhub C227 SQUEAKING LIKE MAD!

    Hi guys,

    Got a C227 thats started squeaking, its not coming from the fuser as I know thats quite common!

    Basically it only squeaks when the toner bottles turn! If I take the output tray off and put some pressure on the toner bottles it stops squeaking and then i let go and it continues.

    I furst thought it was the gears that turn the toner bottles at the back of the bottles so I swapped this from another machine, however it still does it!! Surely I can't be that unlucky that Ive picked up another squeaky part?

    Any ideas anyone out there?

    Thanks
    Tags: bottles, c227, squeaking, toner, turn
    • BillyCarpenter
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      #2
      Re: Bizhub C227 SQUEAKING LIKE MAD!

      Originally posted by Konicatech
      Hi guys,

      Got a C227 thats started squeaking, its not coming from the fuser as I know thats quite common!

      Basically it only squeaks when the toner bottles turn! If I take the output tray off and put some pressure on the toner bottles it stops squeaking and then i let go and it continues.

      I furst thought it was the gears that turn the toner bottles at the back of the bottles so I swapped this from another machine, however it still does it!! Surely I can't be that unlucky that Ive picked up another squeaky part?

      Any ideas anyone out there?

      Thanks
      I don't work on this brand but here's what I'd do to find the problem.

      Most machines have a simulation that allows you to forcibly add toner. I'd run that sim (don't run it long) and see if it squeaks). You should have 4 toner add motors. Try to isolate to one specific color that's making the noise. From there you're gonna have to troubleshoot from the cartridge back to the toner motor.

      Hopefully someone that works on these can offer a better solution.
      Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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        • allan
          RTFM!!

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          • Apr 2010
          • 5462
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          Re: Bizhub C227 SQUEAKING LIKE MAD!

          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
          I don't work on this brand but here's what I'd do to find the problem.

          Most machines have a simulation that allows you to forcibly add toner. I'd run that sim (don't run it long) and see if it squeaks). You should have 4 toner add motors. Try to isolate to one specific color that's making the noise. From there you're gonna have to troubleshoot from the cartridge back to the toner motor.

          Hopefully someone that works on these can offer a better solution.

          Checked the manual and found the listed components you can do a load check on and the toner motors are not listed. So in that case i will leave the top cover off and then run solid half-tones until the bottle turns.
          Whatever

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            • tsbservice
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              • May 2007
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              Re: Bizhub C227 SQUEAKING LIKE MAD!

              Simply open close front cover and toners will turn(at least C224e will do that). Also on 4e and 8 series there's manual toner add under Image Quality Adjustments in Service mode should be there in 7 series.
              A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
              Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                • BillyCarpenter
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                  Re: Bizhub C227 SQUEAKING LIKE MAD!

                  Also, if the machine is squeaking that bad, I'd make sure the toner path isn't blocked and putting too much load on the toner motor and the associated gears/parts.
                  Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                    • tsbservice
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                      • May 2007
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                      Re: Bizhub C227 SQUEAKING LIKE MAD!

                      Hmm I won't be sure until noise is recorded and file uploaded somewhere. This is hard enough job to be done on site what about if noise can't be heard. Last week I received a call for low metered C258 noise.Today called them that I'm going to visit machine she told me now there isn't noise. Thinked for a while and give up visit this time.
                      A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                      Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                        • copier tech
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                          • Jan 2014
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                          #7
                          Re: Bizhub C227 SQUEAKING LIKE MAD!

                          Originally posted by harigabi
                          Hello!

                          It is the toner bottle drive assy. P/N: A797F23001

                          I've replaced 3-4 times so far...

                          It is the no. 12 in the attached page.

                          [ATTACH]48041[/ATTACH]
                          Why replace a complete unit when a few drops of oil will cure the squeak?
                          Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                          For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                          www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk
                          ​

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                            • Gift
                              Service Manager

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                              • Mar 2011
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                              #8
                              Re: Bizhub C227 SQUEAKING LIKE MAD!

                              PErhaps a bottle itself makes noise if turning?

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                                • avecosat
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                                  • Jun 2012
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                                  #9
                                  Re: Bizhub C227 SQUEAKING LIKE MAD!

                                  I had two machines and one I solved it with oil and another I had to change the entire unit

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                                    • Bix
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                                      • Apr 2018
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                                      #10
                                      Re: Bizhub C227 SQUEAKING LIKE MAD!

                                      it may be waste toner box gears.

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                                        • allan
                                          RTFM!!

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                                          • Apr 2010
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                                          #11
                                          Re: Bizhub C227 SQUEAKING LIKE MAD!

                                          Please record this elusive creature please.
                                          Whatever

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                                            • Konicatech
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                                              Re: Bizhub C227 SQUEAKING LIKE MAD!

                                              Thanks everyone, going to try and grease up the one I have and if that doesnt work I'll order a new one.

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