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  • copier tech
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    [Misc] High Durability BK Drum DR315K

    Apologies if this has been asked before but what are your experiences with the High Durability BK Drum DR315K, worth the extra cost vs life?

    I thought the only difference was the chip count, so the the OPC drum etc were identical.



    High Durability BK Drum DR315K.pdf
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  • tech51
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    • copier tech
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      Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K


      Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

      For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

      www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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      • emujo2
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        Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

        we were told to wait for a required f/w update to use these..your post made me realize that I never saw anything later to allow usage..The cost is about the same if you compare stated yields..not sure if I want to spend almost 2x per drum only to have them crap out as well.

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        • copier tech
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          Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

          Originally posted by emujo2
          we were told to wait for a required f/w update to use these..your post made me realize that I never saw anything later to allow usage..The cost is about the same if you compare stated yields..not sure if I want to spend almost 2x per drum only to have them crap out as well.
          This backs up my thought in that the only difference is the chip count/life.
          Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

          For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

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          • tech51
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            Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

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            The first picture is the long life drum, the second one is the standard drum. You can see the charge roller cleaner is different. I believe they changed it to help prevent drum score marks.

            Any firmware from g00 v1 onwards will enable use of this drum.

            Regards. 51

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            • tsbservice
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              Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

              Originally posted by tech51
              [ATTACH=CONFIG]48453[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]48454[/ATTACH]

              The first picture is the long life drum, the second one is the standard drum. You can see the charge roller cleaner is different. I believe they changed it to help prevent drum score marks.

              Any firmware from g00 v1 onwards will enable use of this drum.

              Regards. 51
              Yes helical charge roller cleaning rollers.
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              • copier tech
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                Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

                Originally posted by tech51
                [ATTACH=CONFIG]48453[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]48454[/ATTACH]

                The first picture is the long life drum, the second one is the standard drum. You can see the charge roller cleaner is different. I believe they changed it to help prevent drum score marks.

                Any firmware from g00 v1 onwards will enable use of this drum.

                Regards. 51

                Thanks for the pics. Not sure how this would stop the OPC wearing out.
                Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                • allan
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                  Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

                  Originally posted by copier tech
                  This backs up my thought in that the only difference is the chip count/life.
                  No counter data is stored on the chip. Chip consists of a drum set resistor and a fuse that reset the count on the machine.So surely you must change something on the machine to in crease the yield info. So guess it will be firmware and soft switches. Once its done you need to replace only with the high yield drums.
                  Last edited by allan; 02-28-2021, 01:02 AM.
                  Whatever

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                  • EarthKmTech
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                    • May 2009
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                    Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

                    lol

                    That improved pcr cleaning setup is already on the dr314 for the 8e bk models, in comparison with the regular dr313k those long life drums just fail at half life in my experience.

                    It might make some difference but i'm skeptical as to it being worth twice the price.

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                    • tech51
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                      Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

                      Originally posted by allan
                      No counter data is stored on the chip. Chip consists of a drum set resistor and a fuse that reset the count on the machine.So surely you must change something on the machine to in crease the yield info. So guess it will be firmware and soft switches. Once its done you need to replace only with the high yield drums.
                      No dipswitches to set only firmware update required.

                      Also once firmware is updated either drum type can be used.

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                      • tech51
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                        #12
                        Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

                        Originally posted by copier tech
                        Thanks for the pics. Not sure how this would stop the OPC wearing out.

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                        • copier tech
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                          Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

                          Originally posted by allan
                          No counter data is stored on the chip. Chip consists of a drum set resistor and a fuse that reset the count on the machine.So surely you must change something on the machine to in crease the yield info. So guess it will be firmware and soft switches. Once its done you need to replace only with the high yield drums.
                          The count is kept on the drum chip? If I swap round 2 colours drums the counter moves with the drum.

                          Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                          For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

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                          • tsbservice
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                            Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

                            Originally posted by copier tech
                            The count is kept on the drum chip? If I swap round 2 colours drums the counter moves with the drum.

                            Counters stay with machine not with drums.
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                            • BillyCarpenter
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                              Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

                              Interesting thread but has anyone determined if it's best to use the high durability drum? I need to know so I can stop reading this thread.
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