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  • Amrss
    Technician
    • Dec 2020
    • 46

    C554e toner refill

    Hello everyone,

    is it possible to refill the konica minolta c554e cartridges with toner specific for press machines like the 1070 or 3070 ( this one specifically Konica Minolta TN619 Toner Set for bizhub PRESS C1060 C1070 Part Number: TN619 4-Pack ), would I face any problems if I did that ?

    I want to do that as it can be a lot cheaper than buying the genuine toner specific for the c554e machine.
  • Phil B.
    Field Supervisor

    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2016
    • 22808

    #2
    Re: C554e toner refill

    Originally posted by Amrss
    Hello everyone,

    is it possible to refill the konica minolta c554e cartridges with toner specific for press machines like the 1070 or 3070 ( this one specifically Konica Minolta TN619 Toner Set for bizhub PRESS C1060 C1070 Part Number: TN619 4-Pack ), would I face any problems if I did that ?

    I want to do that as it can be a lot cheaper than buying the genuine toner specific for the c554e machine.
    Compatible toners can cause all sorts of problems from CQ to premature failure of parts.
    Do what you want but I'd stear clear.

    Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

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    • Amrss
      Technician
      • Dec 2020
      • 46

      #3
      Re: C554e toner refill

      Originally posted by Phil B.
      Compatible toners can cause all sorts of problems from CQ to premature failure of parts.
      Do what you want but I'd stear clear.

      Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
      sorry but, CQ stand for ?

      would those problems occur even if I refilled with genuine c3070 toner ?

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      • Phil B.
        Field Supervisor

        10,000+ Posts
        • Jul 2016
        • 22808

        #4
        Re: C554e toner refill

        Originally posted by Amrss
        sorry but, CQ stand for ?

        would those problems occur even if I refilled with genuine c3070 toner ?
        CQ = copy/print quality.
        As far as I know they do not sell bulk toner powder.

        Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

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        • Amrss
          Technician
          • Dec 2020
          • 46

          #5
          Re: C554e toner refill

          Originally posted by Phil B.
          CQ = copy/print quality.
          As far as I know they do not sell bulk toner powder.

          Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
          If I emptied genuine toner cartridges specific for the c3070 in the c554e cartridges, would that cause any problems ?

          Is the toner material the same for both machines?

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          • patrickjlc
            Trusted Tech

            100+ Posts
            • Feb 2015
            • 212

            #6
            Re: C554e toner refill

            I had issues with refilled/ aftermarket toners. You might save some money on the toner, but drums are expensive if messed up with non original toner, learned that the hard way....

            Sent from my motorola one 5G UW using Tapatalk

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            • Amrss
              Technician
              • Dec 2020
              • 46

              #7
              Re: C554e toner refill

              Originally posted by patrickjlc
              I had issues with refilled/ aftermarket toners. You might save some money on the toner, but drums are expensive if messed up with non original toner, learned that the hard way....

              Sent from my motorola one 5G UW using Tapatalk
              Would those problems still happen even if I refilled with genuine toner specified for a konica machine other than the one I have ?

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              • copyman
                Owner / Technician

                Site Contributor
                2,500+ Posts
                • Sep 2005
                • 4284

                #8
                Re: C554e toner refill

                Originally posted by Amrss
                Would those problems still happen even if I refilled with genuine toner specified for a konica machine other than the one I have ?
                Some of the toner is same, for instance all the 4 series is same. I wouldn't use a different series toner. Like the other poster said why ruin the drums with wrong toner. Forget about the drums, what about contaminating the developer units with wrong toner, dev units cost $500+ each!

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                • Amrss
                  Technician
                  • Dec 2020
                  • 46

                  #9
                  Re: C554e toner refill

                  Originally posted by copyman
                  Some of the toner is same, for instance all the 4 series is same. I wouldn't use a different series toner. Like the other poster said why ruin the drums with wrong toner. Forget about the drums, what about contaminating the developer units with wrong toner, dev units cost $500+ each!
                  Got your point, would be interested to hear what others say or if anyone tried this

                  Thank you so much sir

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                  • emujo2
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 1580

                    #10
                    Re: C554e toner refill

                    The very fact that there are 100 different toner bottles out there for the current fleet of machines drives me f'ing nuts..One bottle to rule them all!!!..Of course, production and KM branded devices are going to be different, and I understand the corporate level need to keep out knock off supplies as this affects their bottom line. IMHO if you are having to resort to filling up toner with the left overs from other devices you are probably not going to last much longer. E

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                    • allan
                      RTFM!!

                      5,000+ Posts
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 5445

                      #11
                      Re: C554e toner refill

                      The Materials Safety Data Sheets shows that the toner composition is not the same.
                      TN619 contains organic pigment and there are too many differences.
                      Here compare the MSDS for yourself.

                      MSDS TN512K.pdf
                      MSDS TN619K.pdf


                      I always check this first before using other toner. But does not mean that it will not work.
                      Whatever

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                      • Amrss
                        Technician
                        • Dec 2020
                        • 46

                        #12
                        Re: C554e toner refill

                        Originally posted by emujo2
                        The very fact that there are 100 different toner bottles out there for the current fleet of machines drives me f'ing nuts..One bottle to rule them all!!!..Of course, production and KM branded devices are going to be different, and I understand the corporate level need to keep out knock off supplies as this affects their bottom line. IMHO if you are having to resort to filling up toner with the left overs from other devices you are probably not going to last much longer. E
                        Appreciate the reply sir

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                        • Amrss
                          Technician
                          • Dec 2020
                          • 46

                          #13
                          Re: C554e toner refill

                          Originally posted by allan
                          The Materials Safety Data Sheets shows that the toner composition is not the same.
                          TN619 contains organic pigment and there are too many differences.
                          Here compare the MSDS for your self.

                          MSDS TN512K.pdf
                          MSDS TN619K.pdf


                          I always check this first before using other toner. But does not mean that it will not work.
                          I see, since there are differences I don't think it's worth it to risk damaging the drum units or the developer units

                          Thank you so much

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                          • Zesti
                            Trusted Tech

                            250+ Posts
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 308

                            #14
                            Re: C554e toner refill

                            Originally posted by Amrss
                            Hello everyone,

                            is it possible to refill the konica minolta c554e cartridges with toner specific for press machines like the 1070 or 3070 ( this one specifically Konica Minolta TN619 Toner Set for bizhub PRESS C1060 C1070 Part Number: TN619 4-Pack ), would I face any problems if I did that ?

                            I want to do that as it can be a lot cheaper than buying the genuine toner specific for the c554e machine.
                            It will give excellent result... provided toner is OEM..
                            Be carefull not to refill in humid environment...

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                            • Amrss
                              Technician
                              • Dec 2020
                              • 46

                              #15
                              Re: C554e toner refill

                              Originally posted by Zesti
                              It will give excellent result... provided toner is OEM..
                              Be carefull not to refill in humid environment...
                              Thank you for your reply sir

                              Have you tried doing this on konica machines and what were the models used?

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