Konica Minolta c6100 Jam??

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  • reckless
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    #16
    Re: Konica Minolta c6100 Jam??

    Originally posted by blackcat4866
    Does it even have a centering sensor? I doubt it.

    I seem to recall that the centering sensor assembly must be installed when the PF707m is used on a C6100.
    =^..^=
    What does the centering sensor do?

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    • blackcat4866
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      #17
      Re: Konica Minolta c6100 Jam??

      They should have come " ... bundled with the main body." As it says right here. Did you install them?:


      =^..^=
      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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      • reckless
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        #18
        Re: Konica Minolta c6100 Jam??

        Originally posted by blackcat4866
        They should have come " ... bundled with the main body." As it says right here. Did you install them?:


        =^..^=
        It wasn't inside my PF-707m and I bought it brand new.

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        • blackcat4866
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          #19
          Re: Konica Minolta c6100 Jam??

          So there isn't one. I think I know what the problem is. =^..^=
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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          • dkaliahsan
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            • Sep 2021
            • 13

            #20
            Re: Konica Minolta c6100 Jam??

            Originally posted by blackcat4866
            The C-0130 is a PF-707m roller pressure release abnormality.

            With larger media, rather than maintaining a buckle between the rollers of the paper pickup unit, this paper feeder releases the pinch roller pressure to allow the media to pull through.

            I had this erro on a bizhub C1060:

            "C0130" error message, with PF-707, won't clear.

            Roller pressure release motor M10 cannot reach home position. Clean roller pressure release sensor PS41 (was heavily caked with translucent grease). When cleaned, machine comes to ready. It feeds a few sheets before coding out with loud gear noise. The 2nd tooth from the flat on sector gear 36T is worn/flattened.

            Clean roller pressure release sensor PS41 in a cup of alcohol. Replace release cam (A55C 7137 00), and release sector gear 36T (A55C 7195 00).

            what if there is we no noise of the gears grinding or the gears are fine could it be the motor gone bad?.

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            • blackcat4866
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              #21
              Re: Konica Minolta c6100 Jam??

              Originally posted by dkaliahsan
              what if there is we no noise of the gears grinding or the gears are fine could it be the motor gone bad?.
              I suppose so. Or the sensor may not be functioning. You can test the sensor and motor, yes? =^..^=
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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              • dkaliahsan
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                • Sep 2021
                • 13

                #22
                Re: Konica Minolta c6100 Jam??

                So basically when i do the IO test 28-16 comes up as abnormal and i believe the sensor is working because I'm not getting the sensor error code the error code is c-0130 and I replaced the two parts that you suggested so i believe the motor M10 is malfunctioning? when I do the running test immediately i get the code C-0130.

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                • blackcat4866
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                  #23
                  Re: Konica Minolta c6100 Jam??

                  I think that I'd put my meter on the motor leads and check to see that you're getting 24vdc (I think it's 24vdc?). If you have voltage then yes, the motor is bad. If you don't have voltage it could be an ICP on the board.

                  You can also check the photointerrupter. With it live, determine which of your terminals are:
                  * ground
                  * 5vdc input
                  * sensor output
                  The ground and 5vdc will always stay the same. When you block the sensor output should change from ~0.1vdc to ~5.0vdc (or vice versa) when metered against frame ground. It's the change that you're watching for.

                  =^..^=
                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                  • dkaliahsan
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                    • Sep 2021
                    • 13

                    #24
                    Re: Konica Minolta c6100 Jam??

                    Originally posted by blackcat4866
                    What jam code? =^..^=

                    the jam code I have is J-3140, paper will not pass the m3 part of my Minolta, and i recently received the centering sensor and installed it but noticed for the centering sensor to be installed I would have to disconnect the two other sensors (compensating sensors). Is there a way to have all the sensors work together instead of just having either the centering censor or the compensating sensor working, I have a C6100 Minolta, was wondering if I can get guidance on this? I have attached two photos as well. In the first picture you will notice there is two wires just hanging to the side and the other two are connected now these pairs of wires control each of the sensors, so the pair I have connected I believe are the ones for the compensating sensor which in the second picture is the two square ones that are above and below the centering sensor, now how do I have the centering sensor plugged in or where would I, because I am getting the C-0130 code as well as C-5109. I have replaced the motor, gears and everything for C-0130 however the code is still there, and for the C-5109 there was a whole other forum on someone questioning to installing a centering sensor however where would it plug in??
                    Minolta Picture 1.JPGMinolta Picture 2.JPG
                    Last edited by dkaliahsan; 12-02-2021, 07:11 AM.

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                    • reckless
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                      #25
                      Re: Konica Minolta c6100 Jam??

                      Originally posted by blackcat4866
                      I suppose so. Or the sensor may not be functioning. You can test the sensor and motor, yes? =^..^=
                      Is this sensor not connected properly?

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                      • reckless
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                        #26
                        Re: Konica Minolta c6100 Jam??

                        or maybe its something else

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                        • dkaliahsan
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                          • Sep 2021
                          • 13

                          #27
                          Re: Konica Minolta c6100 Jam??

                          Originally posted by reckless
                          or maybe its something else
                          I wanted to know which sensor is the one that should be connected the two small ones or the huge center one. Because it is not possible to have all the sensors plugged in.

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                          • reckless
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                            #28
                            Re: Konica Minolta c6100 Jam??

                            Originally posted by dkaliahsan
                            I wanted to know which sensor is the one that should be connected the two small ones or the huge center one. Because it is not possible to have all the sensors plugged in.
                            I would think all sensors need to be plugged in. KM wouldn't design it so empty connectors are hanging in the air?

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                            • dkaliahsan
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                              • Sep 2021
                              • 13

                              #29
                              Re: Konica Minolta c6100 Jam??

                              Originally posted by reckless
                              I would think all sensors need to be plugged in. KM wouldn't design it so empty connectors are hanging in the air?
                              When the PF-707m arrived the box did not have the big long sensor just the two above and below. Which was weird but in the installation manual its confusing because it says install it, but the PF-707 never came with the middle sensor.

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                              • blackcat4866
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                                #30
                                Re: Konica Minolta c6100 Jam??

                                Originally posted by blackcat4866
                                They should have come " ... bundled with the main body." As it says right here. Did you install them?:


                                =^..^=
                                I comes bundled with the main body. Have a look at that reference post. =^..^=
                                If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                                1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                                2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                                3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                                4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                                5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                                blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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