Bizhub 950 different toner bottle?

[Toxic]

Last year i try 1 bottle replacement toner TN-911 and had problem.
Today i get again replacement toner CET TN-911 and there is the same problem (KM does not support anymore TN911)
Bottle dimension is the same but the grooves on top side is reversed and it overjump when machine try to rotate bottle.
Obviously this bottle is meant for opposite direction of rotation than OEM bottle.
Also part number is different from original toner i had in the past from KM.
Is this TN911 meant for other region except EU or something else?
I am thinking how to resolve this on the fastest way, i could just pour toner from this bottle to original one but i will try to modify grooves to avoid pouring.
OEM toner is on the right in the photos.
Does anybody use this toners and see this problem?

[allan]

Re: Bizhub 950 different toner bottle?

TN014 on the Left? Both TN911 and TN015 turns the other way.
Decant and cry. Late night in China.

How does that CET stuff work?

[Toxic]

Re: Bizhub 950 different toner bottle?

Both bottles are TN911, right one is OEM left is CET.
Can somebody confirm what is difference between A0YP031 and A0YP051 , both are TN911 OEM parts number
In the past i always get A0YP051 and it fits ok in to the machine.
Regarding CET, i dont know how will it go, i just got few bottles to test because this bad situation from KM.
I am considering to try to reverse toner bottle motor direction if possible because OEM toners not avaliable anymore.

[tsbservice]

Re: Bizhub 950 different toner bottle?

I can imagine toners for EU - A0YP051 and NA(USA) - A0YP031 market are different and if chinesse(CET) copied NA toners you will have such problems.

[Toxic]

Re: Bizhub 950 different toner bottle?

Agreed, i just cant understand why somebody from EU import incompatible toners for EU region...
It would be interesting to see what is difference in toner supply section so bottle have oposite rotation.
Maybe just motor have opposite direction or there is some extra gear.

[tsbservice]

Re: Bizhub 950 different toner bottle?

A0Y5M10400 may be the toner motor part number for US version, can you compare with EU manual?

[Toxic]

Re: Bizhub 950 different toner bottle?

That one is the same, it is toner supply motor.
Check PN for toner bottle motor , i think that one rotate bottle.
In EU version it is A0PNM10200 DC Brushless motor /20

[tsbservice]

Re: Bizhub 950 different toner bottle?

That one is the same, it is toner supply motor.
Check PN for toner bottle motor , i think that one rotate bottle.
In EU version it is A0PNM10200 DC Brushless motor /20

He is hiding but now I see it.
Maybe I found the difference in wiring see key 13 as B is USA/Canada and C is European type:

13 A0Y5N13A01 Toner Control harness /A Destination A,C,D1,D3,F2,H,I,J,
K


13 A0Y5N13E01 Toner Control harness /A Destination B,G1

[Toxic]

Re: Bizhub 950 different toner bottle?

Good vision, i missed it.
Did you check motor PN, if it is the same thing for EU and NA then must be only harness different.

[tsbservice]

Re: Bizhub 950 different toner bottle?

Good vision, i missed it.
Did you check motor PN, if it is the same thing for EU and NA then must be only harness different.

Yes motor is the same, take care and keep up great work!

[Toxic]

Re: Bizhub 950 different toner bottle?

Thank you my friend for hint and help.
Tomorrow i will remove toner supply unit and have a look, maybe i will figure it out how to modify

[allan]

Re: Bizhub 950 different toner bottle?

Thank you my friend for hint and help.
Tomorrow i will remove toner supply unit and have a look, maybe i will figure it out how to modify

If its a BLDC motor then you can pull the direction pin up or down to ground to change direction.
Not sure if running it in reverse would work.

[emujo2]

Re: Bizhub 950 different toner bottle?

OMG...just dump the toner into the old bottle..What are you going to do??? Swap the motor out every time you get a different bottle..E

[tsbservice]

Re: Bizhub 950 different toner bottle?

OMG...just dump the toner into the old bottle..What are you going to do??? Swap the motor out every time you get a different bottle..E

This is always possible however some engineers like to think outside of the box. Those are I would like to work with. Damn you can even possibly train a monkey doing toner decanting

[wjurls]

Re: Bizhub 950 different toner bottle?

OMG...just dump the toner into the old bottle..What are you going to do??? Swap the motor out every time you get a different bottle..E

This! It's so easy to remove the end caps. Tape empty bottle butt to butt with full bottle and invert. Be prepared for a mess as it may not fit all the toner due to air fluff.