Genuine Konica Toner With an "S" Sticker Attached?

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  • femaster
    Service Manager

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    • May 2011
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    #16
    Re: Genuine Konica Toner With an "S" Sticker Attached?

    Originally posted by Drivee
    If you can find KM markings on tube then is not from me but yes, KM selling also AM toners.
    If markings are there, then this is made for them, as a order. AM cartridges should not have OEM logo on cartridges (In Europe). In US is different and no one remove OEM markings. It is all about patents etc...
    I forgot to grab a picture, but when I had the bottle out, it had all the same labeling that the KM bottles normally come with. There wasn't anything out of the ordinary about it that I could see.
    A Ricoh Service Tech for 7 year. A Konica Minolta Service Tech for 7 years. Now, KM service manager for 4 years.
    My Ricoh knowledge is slowly dwindling away at this point. Many things have been lost to time...

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    • REGSIS
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      #17
      Re: Genuine Konica Toner With an "S" Sticker Attached?

      Originally posted by femaster
      I forgot to grab a picture, but when I had the bottle out, it had all the same labeling that the KM bottles normally come with. There wasn't anything out of the ordinary about it that I could see.
      Bottles and packaging are original. Toner is not. AM toner inside - confirmed. This is valid only for toners with S sticker, and notice inside (or onto) the packaging.

      Older H bottles without S sticker are ORIGINAL.

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      • SalesServiceGuy
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        #18
        Re: Genuine Konica Toner With an "S" Sticker Attached?

        Originally posted by Drivee
        It is nice that KM baying toners for 20usd and they selling for 150usd
        ... when you contact KM for free technical support those people do not work for free. High toner costs are in part how they recover the costs to support their resellers.

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        • REGSIS
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          #19
          Re: Genuine Konica Toner With an "S" Sticker Attached?

          They can set the price whatever they want.
          But I ordered OEM toner and get AM without any warning or choice. That's not OK.
          Very likely there's no developer inside.

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          • tsbservice
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            #20
            Re: Genuine Konica Toner With an "S" Sticker Attached?

            Originally posted by REGSIS
            They can set the price whatever they want.
            But I ordered OEM toner and get AM without any warning or choice. That's not OK.
            Very likely there's no developer inside.
            Nothing more can be said. Spot on brother!
            Plus not knowing it's AM we probably can blew the contract clients in legal therms.
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            • tulintron
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              #21
              Re: Genuine Konica Toner With an "S" Sticker Attached?

              Guys, good afternoon. They wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot. Here in Brazil we also receive TN622EK toner.


              These acronyms are for post fire control.


              Of course they've been fooling us this whole time. Engineers would never change the toner composition for each printer model. Never. Can you imagine the number of printer models? Now imagine a type of toner for each of them?


              Here in our lab we do bizarre tests with toners. We have surprising answers. But we only use it on our leased equipment.


              If you purchased from an OEM reseller, don't worry. All right.
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              • danifuenca
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                • Oct 2013
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                #22
                Re: Genuine Konica Toner With an "S" Sticker Attached?

                This "advise" was found inside my new TN-328SK boxes

                advise.jpg

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                • tsbservice
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                  #23
                  Re: Genuine Konica Toner With an "S" Sticker Attached?

                  Originally posted by danifuenca
                  This "advise" was found inside my new TN-328SK boxes

                  [ATTACH=CONFIG]52820[/ATTACH]
                  Sounds like KM bullshiting.
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                  • femaster
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                    #24
                    Re: Genuine Konica Toner With an "S" Sticker Attached?

                    Originally posted by danifuenca
                    This "advise" was found inside my new TN-328SK boxes

                    [ATTACH=CONFIG]52820[/ATTACH]

                    Sounds like the German version of what was attached to the outside of the box I received with the "S" sticker on it.

                    Since my original posting, I've received 2 more boxes of toner with the same "S" sticker and the same label on the outside of the box. They were both magenta toners this time, but I don't recall what machines they were for at the moment.
                    A Ricoh Service Tech for 7 year. A Konica Minolta Service Tech for 7 years. Now, KM service manager for 4 years.
                    My Ricoh knowledge is slowly dwindling away at this point. Many things have been lost to time...

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                    • REGSIS
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                      #25
                      Re: Genuine Konica Toner With an "S" Sticker Attached?

                      I canceled all of my toner orders for now.
                      KM told me that some OEM toners started to come, so I'll rather wait.
                      For all S toners that were sent to me, they told me to register in which machines they were used and report any related problems.

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                      • femaster
                        Service Manager

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                        #26
                        Re: Genuine Konica Toner With an "S" Sticker Attached?

                        Well, got in our first set of plain brown box toners with just a B&W label attached to them. They came in today with 2 of the 450i copiers we ordered last summer.

                        We also got our first "A" toner. Single box of TN812 (labeled as TN812A) with a part number of A8H503A instead of A8H5030. I find it strange that they had special boxes made just for this stuff.
                        A Ricoh Service Tech for 7 year. A Konica Minolta Service Tech for 7 years. Now, KM service manager for 4 years.
                        My Ricoh knowledge is slowly dwindling away at this point. Many things have been lost to time...

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                        • pez
                          Technician
                          • Jul 2015
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                          #27
                          Re: Genuine Konica Toner With an "S" Sticker Attached?

                          Is Bulletin 12787 available via KNOVA? I can't seem to find the magic combination of criteria that returns it

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                          • tsbservice
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                            #28
                            Re: Genuine Konica Toner With an "S" Sticker Attached?

                            Originally posted by pez
                            Is Bulletin 12787 available via KNOVA? I can't seem to find the magic combination of criteria that returns it
                            Sorry not available.
                            A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                            Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                            • Gift
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                              #29
                              Re: Genuine Konica Toner With an "S" Sticker Attached?

                              Now we received Toner TN514JK - never seen that "J" until know, any insights?

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                              • femaster
                                Service Manager

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                                #30
                                Re: Genuine Konica Toner With an "S" Sticker Attached?

                                Originally posted by Gift
                                Now we received Toner TN514JK - never seen that "J" until know, any insights?
                                We have gotten in some "J" toner as well. Ours was TN324JK (A8DA13C). I was joking at the office here that the J stood for "junk".
                                A Ricoh Service Tech for 7 year. A Konica Minolta Service Tech for 7 years. Now, KM service manager for 4 years.
                                My Ricoh knowledge is slowly dwindling away at this point. Many things have been lost to time...

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