Can the bizhub 4020 driver bein used for a Lexmark MX511de?

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  • emujo2
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    #16
    Re: Can the bizhub 4020 driver bein used for a Lexmark MX511de?

    I will agree 100% that using the factory driver installer is great for end users that really have no tech knowledge, but these installers usually have print monitoring, notifications and other bloatware that you would want to avoid on a server and probably on most workstations, but being able to manually add the printer using the .inf file does not make a KM driver work on a non KM printer..(at least not full functionality). E

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    • techsxge
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      #17
      Re: Can the bizhub 4020 driver bein used for a Lexmark MX511de?

      Originally posted by emujo2
      I will agree 100% that using the factory driver installer is great for end users that really have no tech knowledge, but these installers usually have print monitoring, notifications and other bloatware that you would want to avoid on a server and probably on most workstations, but being able to manually add the printer using the .inf file does not make a KM driver work on a non KM printer..(at least not full functionality). E

      I got it working for the basic print job, but cant get it to work to print from others trays than tray 1. So in that case you can also just use a windows default print driver and have more functionality.

      For @Hansoon :

      1. Download 7zip
      2. Download the Driver
      3. Extract the .exe of the driver with 7zip
      4. Open the unpacked .exe and navigate to /unpackeddriverfolder/installationPackage/Drivers/Print/GDI/
      5. You should see a .inf file named something like LMAD1P40.inf
      6. Thats your Driver, proceed like with any KM driver.
      7. Profit

      NOTE: This will ONLY install the Printer driver, you can find other drivers under /unpackeddriverfolder/installationPackage/Drivers/

      I have now also tested this method, works perfect for basic print functions, not sure about scan2machine etc tho.
      Will need extensive testing which i am not able to do rn to make sure that there are no other possible Problems.
      Last edited by techsxge; 06-29-2022, 06:26 PM.

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      • Hansoon
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        #18
        Re: Can the bizhub 4020 driver bein used for a Lexmark MX511de?

        Originally posted by techsxge
        Well the Lexmark driver he wants to use is an exe, you start it, define where everything should go and basically do the same setup you'd do with KM Drivers under the windows contrl panel but in a own window. Even the text is basically the same so i dont even see where there would be any issue. Just enter what you're asked for and you're good
        Yes, but I stated from the beginning that I do NOT like any drivers being installed by .exe, or ANYTHING else than a .inf file and I cannot find Lexmark .inf file drivers for this machine. I also stated that I do not want to use Universal junk drivers and all that automatic Windows driver install stuff. Also WSD I do not like.

        I'm very old-fashioned and used since the days of Windows NT and Windows 2000 to install drivers "the hard way" and like to continue that.

        I am not trying to bend a KM driver to work with Lexmark. Opposite, I'm just trying to find a dedicated .inf driver for that Lexmark, why? Because as mentioned here by colleagues, problems are expected with the extra trays and that is exactly what has happened after we had the MX511de in our workshop for mechanical maintenance.

        When the MFP returned to the customer, there were suddenly lots of issues with all 5 trays, why again? Cause obviously the company who did the previous set-up and install before us used "any" Universal, Automatic, WSD, .exe, driver install stuff or let "Windows choose the proper driver" rubbish.

        Their previous IT-provider will be kicked out and my company wants to take responsibility now and therefore I want to be maximum prepared. Thanks guys.

        Hans
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        • allan
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          Re: Can the bizhub 4020 driver bein used for a Lexmark MX511de?

          Originally posted by Hansoon
          Yes, but I stated from the beginning that I do NOT like any drivers being installed by .exe, or ANYTHING else than a .inf file and I cannot find Lexmark .inf file drivers for this machine. I also stated that I do not want to use Universal junk drivers and all that automatic Windows driver install stuff. Also WSD I do not like.

          I'm very old-fashioned and used since the days of Windows NT and Windows 2000 to install drivers "the hard way" and like to continue that.

          I am not trying to bend a KM driver to work with Lexmark. Opposite, I'm just trying to find a dedicated .inf driver for that Lexmark, why? Because as mentioned here by colleagues, problems are expected with the extra trays and that is exactly what has happened after we had the MX511de in our workshop for mechanical maintenance.

          When the MFP returned to the customer, there were suddenly lots of issues with all 5 trays, why again? Cause obviously the company who did the previous set-up and install before us used "any" Universal, Automatic, WSD, .exe, driver install stuff or let "Windows choose the proper driver" rubbish.

          Their previous IT-provider will be kicked out and my company wants to take responsibility now and therefore I want to be maximum prepared. Thanks guys.

          Hans
          Hi Hans. Please check if this installs. Or anyone willing. If it does I have learned something useful. Should be a working minidriver. It works on my PC but i also got it from the same PC. The MX511de falls under the MX510 series so if you install the MX511de driver its states MX510 series. Its been around forever.

          Ignore the 302 moved message. Copy the entire MX510 folder to the target PC.

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          • Hansoon
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            Re: Can the bizhub 4020 driver bein used for a Lexmark MX511de?

            Thanks Allan for your help.
            Unfortunately am I not able to test because the machine is in use almost 18 hours per day. Besides the usual doctor's stuff, are there coming lab results per fax [sic!] all evening long. The only possibility would be Sundays, but then security has to open for me the building.

            I need right away a proper driver, hence my desire to have a .inf, so it will take maximum 10 minutes to install the driver and configure and test the cassettes. There will be no fall back to the old driver situation in case I do not have the right driver.

            All very complicated and in urgent need for correction of the situation. I have to sit together with the owner and discuss matters.

            Hans
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            • techsxge
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              Re: Can the bizhub 4020 driver bein used for a Lexmark MX511de?

              Originally posted by allan
              Hi Hans. Please check if this installs. Or anyone willing. If it does I have learned something useful. Should be a working minidriver. It works on my PC but i also got it from the same PC. The MX511de falls under the MX510 series so if you install the MX511de driver its states MX510 series. Its been around forever.

              Ignore the 302 moved message. Copy the entire MX510 folder to the target PC.

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              Ofcourse this one's work, no need to test it any further. The .exe you download from Lexmark contains multiple drivers. You have extracted the .exe and got the driver files. have you followed my tutorial in the thread?
              The only issue with your "driver pack" now is that you'll ONLY have the printer driver. You'll most likely need a network driver too. Before deploying this in the field like Hansoon is about to do, it would need to go under heavy testing if there is anything missing that he might need.
              But basic print functions should work just fine

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              • allan
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                #22
                Re: Can the bizhub 4020 driver bein used for a Lexmark MX511de?

                Originally posted by techsxge
                Ofcourse this one's work, no need to test it any further. The .exe you download from Lexmark contains multiple drivers. You have extracted the .exe and got the driver files. have you followed my tutorial in the thread?
                The only issue with your "driver pack" now is that you'll ONLY have the printer driver. You'll most likely need a network driver too. Before deploying this in the field like Hansoon is about to do, it would need to go under heavy testing if there is anything missing that he might need.
                But basic print functions should work just fine
                Nope sorry missed your tutorial. Well now I know.
                Whatever

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                • techsxge
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                  Re: Can the bizhub 4020 driver bein used for a Lexmark MX511de?

                  Ok i think this will be my last message in this Thread:


                  Hans, i've provided you with some Information on how the installation could possibly work.
                  emujo2, mojorolla, blackcat are also right with good Information, after some testing i was able to confirm that there are many issues when using a KM driver with a lexmark MX511

                  The tipp of rrrohan and screwdriverassy was worth gold, you can actually unpack the .exe driver package like i described later, i did not thought of that with drivers actually this will deffo. save me some time in my own work

                  The part i do not understand yet is why cant you eventually rollback to the old driver? I usually only delete the old driver when the new one is up and running fine. Should be no Problem unless you're touching windows maximum of 2048 printer drivers there which i dont think so tbh.


                  If you are actually doing it Sundays and need a little help feel free to message me (Make sure to message me a day before or something otherwise i might not read my emails) and i'll be happy to help you with any printer / network related work (Speaking German or English)

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                  • techsxge
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                    #24
                    Re: Can the bizhub 4020 driver bein used for a Lexmark MX511de?

                    Originally posted by allan
                    Nope sorry missed your tutorial. Well now I know.
                    I've actually got the idea from other users in this thread today. As i said it needs much testing before i'd personally deploy it on a customer with the size of what Hansoon describes

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                    • allan
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                      #25
                      Re: Can the bizhub 4020 driver bein used for a Lexmark MX511de?

                      Originally posted by Hansoon
                      Thanks Allan for your help.
                      Unfortunately am I not able to test because the machine is in use almost 18 hours per day. Besides the usual doctor's stuff, are there coming lab results per fax [sic!] all evening long. The only possibility would be Sundays, but then security has to open for me the building.

                      I need right away a proper driver, hence my desire to have a .inf, so it will take maximum 10 minutes to install the driver and configure and test the cassettes. There will be no fall back to the old driver situation in case I do not have the right driver.

                      All very complicated and in urgent need for correction of the situation. I have to sit together with the owner and discuss matters.

                      Hans
                      Hans.

                      Ok what I have shared with you is the .inf and supporting files. Its like a minidriver. Its what i believe you are after. A folder with the .inf file in it...
                      What i wanted to know if it will install on your PC win 7 64 or higher.

                      Like techsxge I followed a similar path. All the files needed gets copied to windows/system32/DriverStore/FileRepository/ The you can use that to install it without the .exe
                      Print Management -> All Printers will show you where its stored if you ever delete the printer and need to reinstall it.

                      Nice to know if you know an existing PC has it installed you can get it from there if its not easy to find it online.

                      Unfortunatly that is as close as you will get.

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                      • allan
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                        #26
                        Re: Can the bizhub 4020 driver bein used for a Lexmark MX511de?

                        If its that critical your customer needs Follow Me Printing. Ysoft...
                        Whatever

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                        • techsxge
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                          Re: Can the bizhub 4020 driver bein used for a Lexmark MX511de?

                          Originally posted by allan
                          Hans.

                          Ok what I have shared with you is the .inf and supporting files. Its like a minidriver. Its what i believe you are after. A folder with the .inf file in it...
                          What i wanted to know if it will install on your PC win 7 64 or higher.

                          Like techsxge I followed a similar path. All the files needed gets copied to windows/system32/DriverStore/FileRepository/ The you can use that to install it without the .exe
                          Print Management -> All Printers will show you where its stored if you ever delete the printer and need to reinstall it.

                          Nice to know if you know an existing PC has it installed you can get it from there if its not easy to find it online.

                          Unfortunatly that is as close as you will get.

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                          True, but if he feels more comfortable he can also use the control panel like (i guess) he always used to with KM Drivers. Both way work ofc

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                          • allan
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                            #28
                            Re: Can the bizhub 4020 driver bein used for a Lexmark MX511de?

                            Originally posted by techsxge
                            True, but if he feels more comfortable he can also use the control panel like (i guess) he always used to with KM Drivers. Both way work ofc
                            Personally I hate installers. With scanning its always been FTP or email for me. Except brother printers I like the scanning software.
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                            • techsxge
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                              #29
                              Re: Can the bizhub 4020 driver bein used for a Lexmark MX511de?

                              Originally posted by allan
                              Personally I hate installers. With scanning its always been FTP or email for me. Except brother printers I like the scanning software.
                              As i said, personal preference.

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                              • allan
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                                #30
                                Re: Can the bizhub 4020 driver bein used for a Lexmark MX511de?

                                Ok here is the last option I can think of. Use PS and the PPD. It comes with the config files so it installs normal from the control panel and supports all the trays and duplex and all the other features for this model. There also seems to be a network TWAIN scan driver that is 15Mb's available.
                                A full 313Kb's.

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