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  • pickle8486
    Technician
    • Aug 2013
    • 26

    #1

    Konica minolta with dead lithium batteries

    Techs! Please give me some ideas as how you are replacing the SOLDERED ON lithium batteries that's on the main pwb. Photos and suggestions needed. My idea went down in flames as the metal tabs are so delicate. I thought I could just use a female connector with a battery case but the metal tabs are like tin foil.

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  • Gift
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    • Mar 2011
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    Re: Konica minolta with dead lithium batteries

    Originally posted by pickle8486
    Techs! Please give me some ideas as how you are replacing the SOLDERED ON lithium batteries that's on the main pwb. Photos and suggestions needed. My idea went down in flames as the metal tabs are so delicate. I thought I could just use a female connector with a battery case but the metal tabs are like tin foil.

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    Initially I bought the original lithium battery for replacing but once I found out that the PCB needs the battery power at all times I soldered wires on the battery, protect it wih a heat shrink tube).
    Just solder the wires on the original battery contact pins (close to the PCB) and then remove the old battery with a cutter. I know it's not beautiful

    If you have to buy batteries I'd tried to find some that already comes with connection wires and isolation.

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    • tsbservice
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      • May 2007
      • 7910

      #3
      Re: Konica minolta with dead lithium batteries

      Originally posted by Gift
      Initially I bought the original lithium battery for replacing but once I found out that the PCB needs the battery power at all times I soldered wires on the battery, protect it wih a heat shrink tube).
      Just solder the wires on the original battery contact pins (close to the PCB) and then remove the old battery with a cutter. I know it's not beautiful

      If you have to buy batteries I'd tried to find some that already comes with connection wires and isolation.
      Hey don't be shy, picture please
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      • tech51
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        • Jan 2009
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        • Hansoon
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          • Sep 2007
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          Re: Konica minolta with dead lithium batteries

          Which is?

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          • Gift
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            • Mar 2011
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            Re: Konica minolta with dead lithium batteries

            Originally posted by tsbservice
            Hey don't be shy, picture please
            LOL sorry, haven't taken any

            Imagine using something like this:

            CMOS Batterie CR2032 mit Stecker, Backup Lithium Batterie, Stecker ca. 3,2x4mm | CMOS BackUp | Lithium Batterien | Batterien | Akkushop

            And handle it like this:

            battmod.jpg

            +/- colors might be wrong for artistical reasons^^
            Last edited by Gift; 10-20-2022, 07:33 AM.

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            • Hansoon
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              Re: Konica minolta with dead lithium batteries

              COOL!

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              • adecanmin
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                • Oct 2010
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                #8
                Re: Konica minolta with dead lithium batteries

                Thanks for posting. I think there is going to be a rash of batteries needing replacement. I wonder if the ghv-m1 firmware will do anything to avoid having to do all of this.

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                • Gift
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                  • Mar 2011
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                  #9
                  Re: Konica minolta with dead lithium batteries

                  I'm not shure, we had a phase with a some cases years ago but most machines (there aren't many in the left in the field) are working fine with the initial battery.
                  I have the feeling that there was a "bad batch" of batteries used in production causing this problems only sporadically.
                  It won't hurt to check the battery voltage during service visits and replace it if you notice a voltage drop but I wouldn't swap them all the time.

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                  • occus
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                    • Jul 2013
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                    #10
                    Re: Konica minolta with dead lithium batteries

                    Konica Minolta made the recommendation that the customer should not turn off the device to avoid the problem. I'm wondering if changing the battery while the device it's on would also be a solution... ?

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                    • Gift
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                      Re: Konica minolta with dead lithium batteries

                      Originally posted by occus
                      Konica Minolta made the recommendation that the customer should not turn off the device to avoid the problem. I'm wondering if changing the battery while the device it's on would also be a solution... ?
                      LOL good luck with changing a soldered battery during operation

                      That KM recommendation also sounds lika a joke. In most cases the affected MFPs has been switched on 24/7 but sometimes you can't avoid it, like if you move the machine or do certain repair jobs.
                      Another thing is that many dealers has a collection of 2nd hand MFPs in store for refurb purposes - no way to power them all time.

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                      • tulintron
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                        • Jul 2014
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                        #12
                        Re: Konica minolta with dead lithium batteries

                        On the subject of batteries, I have a 4750 with the date in 2000 year.


                        When I update date and time, the panel freezes.


                        Anyone for a tip? I didn't find battery.

                        painel 4750.jpg
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                        • ltdiniz
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                          Re: Konica minolta with dead lithium batteries

                          Hey guys!
                          I've never done this procedure myself, but I've found all these accessories, which I think solve your problems.
                          I imagined that it can work and the aesthetics of the equipment is not too ugly.
                          I found in an electronics store in my city the CR2477 lithium battery similar to the MFPB and analyzed it to assemble
                          that way there with a connector and insulate with a shrink-wrap around the battery so you don't have an electrical short.
                          I hope to help members with this tip.
                          Thanks
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                          • B0265
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                            • Jan 2007
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                            #14
                            Re: Konica minolta with dead lithium batteries

                            Originally posted by occus
                            Konica Minolta made the recommendation that the customer should not turn off the device to avoid the problem. I'm wondering if changing the battery while the device it's on would also be a solution... ?
                            I think the recommedation from KM was to "Advise the customer to not to power off or unplug the device until a new MFPB can be installed."

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                            • Gift
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                              • Mar 2011
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                              Re: Konica minolta with dead lithium batteries

                              Originally posted by tulintron
                              On the subject of batteries, I have a 4750 with the date in 2000 year.


                              When I update date and time, the panel freezes.


                              Anyone for a tip? I didn't find battery.

                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]55058[/ATTACH]
                              is there a date/time setting in service mode like that settings you had to do if you install the A3 models?

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