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  • rrrohan
    Service Manager

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    • Sep 2011
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    Linux Install

    I have worked on KM for almost 12 years and never installed on Linux.

    Is it same as Mac?

    Any guides? I hate bluffing onsite. Thanks
  • elmaligno
    Expert technician KM

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    • Oct 2009
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    #2
    Re: Linux Install

    Hope this helps you
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    • PrintWhisperer
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      • Feb 2018
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      #3
      Re: Linux Install

      Originally posted by rrrohan
      I have worked on KM for almost 12 years and never installed on Linux.

      Is it same as Mac?

      Any guides? I hate bluffing onsite. Thanks
      Edit: It occurs to me the OP meant the 'other' KM (Kyo has no 'M' anymore), so hopefully they have similar support. GL

      Same as MAC in structure but not in installation. The MAC installer works, the LINUX one may fail with unknown dependencies not met.

      First thing to determine is the version of Linux, as procedures differ.
      Second, when you expand the Linux driver package(s), look for the README file, it has really good instructions for the different distro's.

      Lastly, if it is Ubuntu you may find my guide useful, it is fairly recent:
      Linux Printing with Kyocera Print Panel - Printers & Scanners - Spiceworks

      BTW any reference to Python2 is deprecated as Kyocera now supports only Python3 as a package dependency.
      Ensure all 3rd party and OS updates are installed!


      CUPS will not sync the proper PPD for Print Panel and you will not have complete feature support. There is a specific process to get the proper .PPD files placed into the OS as part of the installer which CUPS will not do.
      "Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn" - Benjamin Franklin

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      • tsbservice
        Field tech

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        • May 2007
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        #4
        Re: Linux Install

        Off topic
        @PrintWhisperer, thanks for coming and sharing your experience. I have always wondered how to not be mistaken as Konica Minolta is too long but KM may be also Kyocera Mita. I think Kyo is very simple and sympathetic.
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        • rrrohan
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          #5
          Re: Linux Install

          Its mixed enviroment of Windows server, Windows PC and Linux.

          Can Linux see printers shared from Windows Server?

          and yes Konica Minolta C308 being installed to replace a Canon

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          • techsxge
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            • Jan 2022
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            #6
            Re: Linux Install

            Originally posted by rrrohan
            Its mixed enviroment of Windows server, Windows PC and Linux.

            Can Linux see printers shared from Windows Server?

            and yes Konica Minolta C308 being installed to replace a Canon
            What OS are we talking about here? There are 5000 different distros of linux. If a OS offers native printer tools, you should almost alwas prefer those.

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            • rthonpm
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              • Aug 2007
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              #7
              Re: Linux Install

              Originally posted by rrrohan
              Its mixed enviroment of Windows server, Windows PC and Linux.

              Can Linux see printers shared from Windows Server?

              and yes Konica Minolta C308 being installed to replace a Canon
              Yes. I've been adding Windows server queues to Linux systems for years.

              Add the printer as LPD using the server name as the address and the share name of the printer as the queue name.

              You'll need to add the driver or PPD yourself and configure the options to match the features of the machine.

              If there is no model specific driver in CUPS, you can use 7-Zip on a Windows machine to extract the Postscript driver installer and use the PPD file in it. That file is the only real difference between Postscript devices.

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              • slimslob
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                #8
                Re: Linux Install

                Originally posted by rthonpm
                Yes. I've been adding Windows server queues to Linux systems for years.

                Add the printer as LPD using the server name as the address and the share name of the printer as the queue name.

                You'll need to add the driver or PPD yourself and configure the options to match the features of the machine.

                If there is no model specific driver in CUPS, you can use 7-Zip on a Windows machine to extract the Postscript driver installer and use the PPD file in it. That file is the only real difference between Postscript devices.

                Sent from my Pixel 6 Pro using Tapatalk
                My youngest daughter has a Doctorate in Computer Science. She is a professor at Cal State University Bakersfield in the Computer Science and Engineering Department. Every Professor in the department runs Windows as a virtual machine under Linux, including the department server She and her entire department would agree with you.

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                • bsm2
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                  • Feb 2008
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                  #9
                  Re: Linux Install

                  Originally posted by rrrohan
                  I have worked on KM for almost 12 years and never installed on Linux.

                  Is it same as Mac?

                  Any guides? I hate bluffing onsite. Thanks
                  Usually there IT will install but KM supports Linux OS similar to Mac driver.

                  Kyocera was never called KM
                  The Mita name was dropped years ago after Kyocera bought out Mita.

                  Also Copystar name has also been retired

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                  • KenB
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                    • Dec 2007
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                    #10
                    Re: Linux Install

                    Originally posted by techsxge
                    What OS are we talking about here? There are 5000 different distros of linux. If a OS offers native printer tools, you should almost alwas prefer those.
                    Bingo.

                    Different distros handle printing just a little differently; some more elegantly than others.
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                    • rthonpm
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                      • Aug 2007
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                      #11
                      Re: Linux Install

                      Originally posted by techsxge
                      What OS are we talking about here? There are 5000 different distros of linux. If a OS offers native printer tools, you should almost alwas prefer those.
                      No matter what distro, they're all using CUPS for printing just like any other Unix based system...

                      Besides, there are really only four major versions of Linux: Arch, Debian, Red Hat, and Suse. All of the others are just variants of those in one form or another with either a slightly different package manager or default configuration.

                      I've had people try to sell me on their particular favourite version generally to disappoint them with something like: so it's just Debian with a different default UI and a few extra packages...

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                      • techsxge
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                        #12
                        Re: Linux Install

                        Originally posted by rthonpm
                        No matter what distro, they're all using CUPS for printing just like any other Unix based system...

                        Besides, there are really only four major versions of Linux: Arch, Debian, Red Hat, and Suse. All of the others are just variants of those in one form or another with either a slightly different package manager or default configuration.

                        I've had people try to sell me on their particular favourite version generally to disappoint them with something like: so it's just Debian with a different default UI and a few extra packages...

                        Sent from my Pixel 6 Pro using Tapatalk
                        Some distros dont have cups implemented in them by default. And if they dont, it can get a pain in the ass later on.
                        Some distros use lpr too.Its not the golden standard anymore today, but it is still worth nothing that you may come across such system

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                        • slimslob
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                          #13
                          Re: Linux Install

                          Originally posted by techsxge
                          Some distros dont have cups implemented in them by default. And if they dont, it can get a pain in the ass later on.
                          Some distros use lpr too.Its not the golden standard anymore today, but it is still worth nothing that you may come across such system
                          CUPS has been the open source solution to Unix printing since 1997. CUPS is the de facto standard printing system for unix; it's the default or only system under Mac OS X and most Linux distributions as well as recent versions of Solaris, and it's available as a package on all major BSD distributions. Nonetheless your distribution may provide lpr and LPRng, typically in packages with these names. If the distribution of Linux your using only has Lpr then it is a very minor version. Lpr has mostly been superseded by LPRng.

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                          • PrintWhisperer
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                            • Feb 2018
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                            #14
                            Re: Linux Install

                            To give this discussion some context, I dug up a printed email from my UNIX account circa 1988 (a continuing ed class in UNIX shell scripting):
                            EmailPrint.jpg

                            This was the original world of printing, tractor fed dot matrix line printers printing from a standard typewriter character set, digitally re-defined as ASCII text.

                            So the original data sent to these device was simple ASCII text with a limited set of control codes (escape sequences) for things like Carraige return, Line feed, and End Of File.

                            This data was in simple text files and only needed to be transported to a device with a programmatic mechanism to address a device and dump the data at the waiting port. This was a direct serial port typically DB9 or later CAT3.

                            In UNIX, that mechanism was lpr/lpq or lp/lpstat (System VR4 as on the SunSPARC Oce Prismaflow).
                            However it is only a transport mechanism sending the simple text files of the day.(See photo)

                            When computers started adopting grapical user interfaces the need for graphical printing and a more robust language to describe it came about.

                            Laser Printers, PCL, PS, CUPS, and a host of other technologies followed to meet these needs to 'add or render' the new more complex data for modern devices, and LPR expanded to include new network communication methods. (Provided the UNIX system had a network card, but that's another story)

                            However they would (and still can) continue to use the LPR/LPD transport protocol. Cups just likes to use IPP as the whole system is sort of web-code based which of course began under UNIX.

                            The rest was, is, and will be Pandora's Box of solutions to the problem of accurately telling a device to render images and obey commands.

                            CUPS is as adequate as installing the Microsoft Unidrivers, after all they use about the same (default, old, un-upgraded) list of manufacterer's .ppds that the OS maker pre-installs. Generally though neither system supports advanced functions that come from the manufacturer's solution as Linux, MAC, and Microsoft V4 drivers ALL require some sort of manufacturer's printer extension for this.

                            However (IMHO) the CUPS system is (in very UNIX style) quirky, tempermental and overly esoteric.
                            "Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn" - Benjamin Franklin

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