ISWtrns with USB-to-Parallel adapter?

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  • mrwho
    Major Asshole!

    Site Contributor
    2,500+ Posts
    • Apr 2009
    • 4299
    #1

    ISWtrns with USB-to-Parallel adapter?

    Anyone here owning a parallel-port-less laptop had any success updating old machine's firmwares (like the 7020 and such) via parallel cable using one of those USB-to-Parallel adapters?

    If not, how did you solve that problem? Separate laptop only for updating purposes?
    ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
    Mascan42

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    Tags: adapter, iswtrns, mrwho, oacb, officially, ops, usb
    • emujo
      Field Supervisor

      2,500+ Posts
      • Jun 2009
      • 3009
      #2
      ISW trans

      You should not even attempt to use a parallel connection for this program. Stick with USB and the ISW driver. Even when I have had a new OACB and the manual says "don't use the USB connection method" it has never failed. I only update 500s, 950s etc, I don't have any experience with older MFPs that may need ISW trans. Emujo
      If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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        • mrwho
          Major Asshole!

          Site Contributor
          2,500+ Posts
          • Apr 2009
          • 4299
          #3
          Of course, but some models (the 7020 is an example) don't use USB for updates. So, my question stays: anyone ever used an usb-to-parallel to program these older models?
          ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
          Mascan42

          'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'
          Ibid

          I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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            • BIG PAPA
              Da Boss

              100+ Posts
              • Jan 2010
              • 234
              #4
              Right there, the USB ports didnt show up till 7145 series. The converters may work, depending on the brand of the converter, and the drivers that get installed with it. I alsays tried to hang onto an older laptop just for this reason.
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                • pepper38_cnd
                  Field Service Manager

                  Site Contributor
                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 1075
                  #5
                  Our Guys have tried all ( I think well a lot at least ) USB to Parallel without success now since I am the only one with an old notebook still functioning with all ports, I get to do all the old crap. But if your laptop/notebook has an PCIMCICIA slot both Parallel and serial PCIMCIA cards will work great and you can pick them up for about $10 to $15 bucks.
                  Online Store is closed. Chip resetting is a thing of the past! Thank you to all my past customers.
                  Now into Ip TV KODI Boxes

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                    • Stirton.M
                      All things Konica Minolta

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 1804
                      #6
                      This has been a question our office has had for some time now....backwards compatibility, specifically ECP, SPP and EPP modes. I would assume that there has to be at least one variant of adaptor that will work with legacy hardware. There are some concerns that older fiery (X2 and X3) as well as some PI controllers may not work, but again, there has to be one variant.

                      I briefly eyeballed this site that looks promising for the hackers amongst us...

                      Converter From USB To Parallel

                      Or this one that outright states it supports all parallel modes and includes a COMM port to boot (which is handy for those still needing this port to service old 911P devices).

                      Buy the Cables Unlimited USB-1480-06 Adapter at TigerDirect.ca

                      So many to choose from, and a limited budget....

                      Though truth be told, the need for the parallel port is becoming less important every day. Especially when there are alternatives regarding controllers with system code on a hard drive. As The Owl mentioned in another thread, imaging programs like Acronis can eliminate the need for parallel solutions.

                      Not to mention, gives us the excuse to say that we can no longer service that old POS, time for the customer to get into the 20th century and upgrade.
                      "Many years ago I chased a woman for almost two years, only to discover that her tastes were exactly like mine: we both were crazy about girls."
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                      Please do not PM me for questions related to Konica Minolta hardware.
                      I will not answer requests or questions there.
                      Please ask in the KM forum for the benefit of others to see the question and give their input.

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                        • SmellsHot
                          Head Tech

                          500+ Posts
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 512
                          #7
                          yes....

                          I've had success using the usb to parallel on Konica's 20 series machines.....
                          I think I have a belkin adapter for this.....
                          But like most people......I keep around an older laptop with parallel ports because you never know what could happen...........(i've zapped a laptop or two's usb ports updating firmware....ooops)

                          Good Luck!
                          Everyone has the right to be stupid. Some people just abuse this privelage more than others

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                            • RRodgers
                              Service Manager

                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 1947
                              #8
                              I've heard tell (at Konica if I remember correctly) that a PCMCIA to Parallel works. I haven't tried it though. You can get those for about $20 if I remember correctly.
                              Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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                                • mascan42
                                  Trusted Tech

                                  250+ Posts
                                  • Oct 2008
                                  • 480
                                  #9
                                  This issue alone is the main reason we haven't done away with our old laptops. A machine as recent as the BH350 still uses a parallel connection to rewrite the Fiery system software. But until KM decides to officially endorse using a USB- or PCMCIA-to-parallel adapter, we won't be able to move into the 21st century.

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                                    • Albonline
                                      Service Manager

                                      1,000+ Posts
                                      • Sep 2008
                                      • 1131
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by RRodgers
                                      I've heard tell (at Konica if I remember correctly) that a PCMCIA to Parallel works. I haven't tried it though. You can get those for about $20 if I remember correctly.

                                      they do work. we use them.

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                                        • alexfixes
                                          Technician
                                          50+ Posts
                                          • Jan 2010
                                          • 68
                                          #11
                                          ISW

                                          Originally posted by mrwho
                                          Anyone here owning a parallel-port-less laptop had any success updating old machine's firmwares (like the 7020 and such) via parallel cable using one of those USB-to-Parallel adapters?

                                          If not, how did you solve that problem? Separate laptop only for updating purposes?
                                          The ISW only works on parallel port only on some special machine you can use usb. i believe all new machine even 1050 uses parellel port. just get ibm think pad and it has parallel port. Now sometimes you can use the pcmcia or adapter but you can zap the machine or control chip on the baord. I don't know if you actually zap the laptop, it doen't really zap the laptop.

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