KM C451 niosey and two lines in feed direction

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  • Printer People
    Technician
    • Oct 2010
    • 43

    [Misc] KM C451 niosey and two lines in feed direction

    I Have a C451 which is producing a loud noise and there are two bands running throught the copy/print top one is greenish and bottom one id magenterish even on black copy/print.

    I thought it must be a transfer belt prob so repalced it but still exactly same prob - HELP

    As its very noisey Im thinking it may be laser unit but that exspensive to replace on a hunch. It still copys/prints but looks very grainy/washed out.

    I HAVE ATTACHED SCAN OF A COPY FROM THE MANUAL
    SKMBT_C45010101411100.jpg
  • Mr Spock
    Vulcan Inventor of Death

    1,000+ Posts
    • Aug 2006
    • 2064

    #2
    If it sounds like a router going through plastic then check the transfer belt cleaning unit drive gear (machine side not on the unit). I have just replaced my 3rd set of these. There is an updated gear, bracket, shaft and spacer to improve the reliability of this unit.
    And Star Trek was just a tv show...yeah right!

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    • ineo+6501
      Trusted Tech

      250+ Posts
      • Mar 2010
      • 262

      #3
      What Mr Spock said.............

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      • Printer People
        Technician
        • Oct 2010
        • 43

        #4
        You dont have to have the part number for the new gears buy any chance?

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        • ineo+6501
          Trusted Tech

          250+ Posts
          • Mar 2010
          • 262

          #5
          TABT0900054EN00.pdf From the bulletin

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          • Printer People
            Technician
            • Oct 2010
            • 43

            #6
            Top Work Chaps - have the gears on order, is it easy to get to the motor.

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            • ineo+6501
              Trusted Tech

              250+ Posts
              • Mar 2010
              • 262

              #7
              Do you have both service manuals?

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              • Printer People
                Technician
                • Oct 2010
                • 43

                #8
                Yes got the manuals - Athough I actualy sell develop machines these days

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                • ineo+6501
                  Trusted Tech

                  250+ Posts
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 262

                  #9
                  We are also a DEVELOP dealer. You can get a pretty good idea of how to get to the gears from the theory of operation manual.

                  Good luck.

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                  • Printer People
                    Technician
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 43

                    #10
                    TOP WORK PARTS FITTED AND WORKING A TREAT - thanks for the advise, ever need any help with the older Canons, just let me know.

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                    • Printer People
                      Technician
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 43

                      #11
                      C451

                      Originally posted by Printer People
                      TOP WORK PARTS FITTED AND WORKING A TREAT - thanks for the advise, ever need any help with the older Canons, just let me know.

                      Bloody gear has gone again - the collar mentioned in the tech info did not have a part so i used a plastic part - I think i need to fit the gear and the collar at same time anyone got an idea of the part number for the collar.

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                      • tech51
                        Senior Tech

                        500+ Posts
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 846

                        #12
                        The part number for the collar is A00J228900. Cheers, 51...

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                        • copier tech
                          Field Supervisor

                          5,000+ Posts
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 7979

                          #13
                          Re: KM C451 niosey and two lines in feed direction

                          Hi,

                          I had the exact same issue, failed transfer/waste drive gear failed, I ordered the gear "A00J228100" but KM sent the modified gear"A00J228111" but this was too big to for in the old style bracket!
                          Can I use the old collar " A00J 2283 00" with the new parts does anyone know as I have ordered this as the bulletin didn't have the part number for the new collar!?
                          Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

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                          • fummbles
                            Technician
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 22

                            #14
                            Re: KM C451 niosey and two lines in feed direction

                            We've got a similar issue.

                            The gear, shaft and collar and bracket are modified but the bracket that the modified gear sits on is too short and there is no modified part number for this bracket.

                            Any ideas??

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                            • copier tech
                              Field Supervisor

                              5,000+ Posts
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 7979

                              #15
                              Re: KM C451 niosey and two lines in feed direction

                              Theese are the parts you need:

                              A00J228100 Gear 55T
                              A00J228401 Frame
                              A00J228700 Shaft
                              A00J228900 Collar
                              Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                              For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                              www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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