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  • bbamouad
    Technician
    • Jun 2009
    • 18

    #1

    dark print KM C451

    Hello everyone,
    I have a bizhub c451 and it prints everything very dark these days, I changed the black IU, and the fuser, I did a total cleaning of the machine but nothing has changed.
    Here are the results of tests :
    1(2).pdf2.pdf

    thank you


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  • RRodgers
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Jun 2009
    • 1947

    #2
    Did you do the gradation adjustments?
    Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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    • bbamouad
      Technician
      • Jun 2009
      • 18

      #3
      yes!!

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      • Kmdurrin
        Copy/Print/Network Tech

        100+ Posts
        • Dec 2008
        • 132

        #4
        Are you using OEM black toner. I dont really see a problem with the colors...
        Parts: Its what your copier craves!

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        • bbamouad
          Technician
          • Jun 2009
          • 18

          #5
          no, i use only the original km toner.
          I thought that the toner can cause the problem, but the new toner gives the same result!

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          • luis8832
            Trusted Tech

            250+ Posts
            • Dec 2008
            • 250

            #6
            did u clean the laser glass? they are right under the iu's. i would definitely check them and clean accordingly.

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            • bbamouad
              Technician
              • Jun 2009
              • 18

              #7
              yes, I clean the laser glass, the problem is that the black is very dark, even the texts become bold!

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              • luis8832
                Trusted Tech

                250+ Posts
                • Dec 2008
                • 250

                #8
                hey

                have you updated the firmware on the unit?

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                • bbamouad
                  Technician
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 18

                  #9
                  no.

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                  • luis8832
                    Trusted Tech

                    250+ Posts
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 250

                    #10
                    also have u changed the transfer belt and roller?

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                    • luis8832
                      Trusted Tech

                      250+ Posts
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 250

                      #11
                      i would update the firmware to the newest version off the konica website. There is also a knowledge base u can use. Tried looking up your issue and only maybe one was similar. They recommended firmware upgrade.

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                      • bbamouad
                        Technician
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 18

                        #12
                        ok; but where can I find the new firmware? you have a link?

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                        • Stirton.M
                          All things Konica Minolta

                          1,000+ Posts
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 1804

                          #13
                          Call your service department in your area to service this machine. Firmware is not available to the general public, nor is the utility to program the CF card, which must be between 128mb to 256mb and only be of certain brand type. In other words, call your service rep to check your machine for this.

                          As for the issue you are dealing with, enter administrator mode, expert adjust, and select reset and stabilize and press the start key. The gradation adjust you are attempting will not correct an over saturation in toner density, only reset and stabilize mode will correct this problem, typically. Failing that, again, call your service rep to have them clean the IDC sensors, which may be covered in dust and throwing off the read value. There could also be a problem with them, but again, associated with the MCB and/or firmware.
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                          • bbamouad
                            Technician
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 18

                            #14
                            thank you for your reply,
                            my machine is out of warranty and my dealer is not longer supports the Konica Minolta.

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