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  • EarthKmTech
    Step aside, noob

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    • May 2009
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    #16
    Re: Sand clock bizhub 601

    FYI, none in stock in australia - had this problem earlier this week, still waiting for my new card.

    in my experience once the card is corrupt your wasting your time trying to fix it, it has never worked for me. (machine may start up ok, but functionality will be limmited, ie, cant access admin mode, cant network print etc)

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    • HoonBoy
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      • May 2011
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      #17
      Re: Sand clock bizhub 601

      Originally posted by PerthKMTECH
      FYI, none in stock in australia - had this problem earlier this week, still waiting for my new card.in my experience once the card is corrupt your wasting your time trying to fix it, it has never worked for me. (machine may start up ok, but functionality will be limmited, ie, cant access admin mode, cant network print etc)
      I once had the problem that i could not enter admin mode with a new CF card(password incorrect, and unable to reset(freeze))... Untill i deleted all data from CF Card and copied my previous backup from a new CF card... My guess later was that i received a bizhub 751 instead a bizhub 601 CF card...

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      • EarthKmTech
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        #18
        Re: Sand clock bizhub 601

        751 & 601 use the same part number for the card - atleast in my parts book. I hope I don't have the same problem

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        • kronical
          Kronic Copier Ninja

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          • Nov 2009
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          #19
          Re: Sand clock bizhub 601

          Originally posted by HoonBoy
          It can be seen in windows...if you can't it must be really defective...Before you put a new card, make a backup from all the files from the new card, and you can use it to copy those files on a CF card with corrupted data...If you are able to copy the folders NVRAM, SET and ADJ folders from the "old" CF card, you could paste them later on the "fixed" or new card, and you will have your settings and address book back...worked for me so far...
          Funny, since not even CF cards created in the fw toolkit are visible in windows and theres nothing wrong with them.

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          • EarthKmTech
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            #20
            Re: Sand clock bizhub 601

            the very reason the fw imaging tool kit is required is because those cards are NOT in a windows compatible format. (linux computers can read them though)

            The card for the 601/751 is FAT format and is readable by windows, but again, do not format it or the machine will reject it.

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            • kronical
              Kronic Copier Ninja

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              #21
              Re: Sand clock bizhub 601

              Originally posted by PerthKMTECH
              the very reason the fw imaging tool kit is required is because those cards are NOT in a windows compatible format. (linux computers can read them though)The card for the 601/751 is FAT format and is readable by windows, but again, do not format it or the machine will reject it.
              No its not FAT even according to the manual. its in vxworks format. Hence why you cant format it. if it was FAT you certainly would be able to format it.

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              • HoonBoy
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                #22
                Re: Sand clock bizhub 601

                Originally posted by PerthKMTECH
                751 & 601 use the same part number for the card - atleast in my parts book. I hope I don't have the same problem
                Your right same part number...Could be difference in firmware from machine and CF card, there's a different in part number:Firmware versionPart numberVersion 19 and beforeA0PNR72300Version 20 and laterA0PNR72311

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                • EarthKmTech
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                  #23
                  Re: Sand clock bizhub 601

                  you can most certainly read/write to the 601/751 cards in a windows PC regardless I assure you. The cards created for other machines in fw imaging tool kit, you cannot.

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                  • HoonBoy
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                    #24
                    Re: Sand clock bizhub 601

                    Originally posted by PerthKMTECH
                    you can most certainly read/write to the 601/751 cards in a windows PC regardless I assure you. The cards created for other machines in fw imaging tool kit, you cannot.
                    I can for sure confirm this.... But it is vxWorks...

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                    • EarthKmTech
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                      #25
                      Re: Sand clock bizhub 601

                      Edit is not working -

                      the format of the card is compatible with FAT and that's what windows assumes it is at least on my PC, that doesn't mean it IS FAT. My apologies for incorrectly asserting that IT IS FAT when it isn't.

                      What format are the regular firmware update cards created in, as they are NOT readable by windows...

                      When i receive my new card for stock, I'm going to analyze the hell out of it and attempt to replicate it on my Linux box. (sure beats paying $247 for a $10 card)

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                      • kronical
                        Kronic Copier Ninja

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                        #26
                        Re: Sand clock bizhub 601

                        Ok so got the replacement CF and did some testing on readability. With the clarification provided here helped confirm the old CF was definitely bad. Thanks guys.

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                        • impaqsol
                          Technician
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 87

                          #27
                          Re: Sand clock bizhub 601

                          Hi Guys,

                          Hope you can help. I bought a BH601 that it stays in the Konica Minolta Screen. As per what I had read in this forums is that the CF Card is bad. Well I took another CF Card and nothing. Now I took my CF Card installed it in the other copier and everything is in Chinese or someting similar ( don't understand). I'm getting to think that the HDD was wipe out and that is why could not read the good (CF card in english) that I put.

                          Any suggestions?

                          Thxs,
                          Rad

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                          • TheOwl
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                            • Nov 2008
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                            #28
                            Re: Sand clock bizhub 601

                            First Suggestion - Start your own thread rather than hi-jacking someone elses.

                            Second Suggestion - Realise that firmware on different machines means that you can not simply swap the CF card from machine to machine.

                            Have you replaced the CF Card?

                            Have you tried updating the firmware?
                            Please don't ask me for firmware or service manuals as refusal often offends.

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                            • RRodgers
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                              • Jun 2009
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                              #29
                              Re: Sand clock bizhub 601

                              Originally posted by EarthKmTech
                              Edit is not working -

                              the format of the card is compatible with FAT and that's what windows assumes it is at least on my PC, that doesn't mean it IS FAT. My apologies for incorrectly asserting that IT IS FAT when it isn't.

                              What format are the regular firmware update cards created in, as they are NOT readable by windows...

                              When i receive my new card for stock, I'm going to analyze the hell out of it and attempt to replicate it on my Linux box. (sure beats paying $247 for a $10 card)
                              I've downloaded a VxWorks OS and have been looking at the cards. They are formmated in fat but it's fat16 if you look at the card it's w95 Fat16 LBA (0x0e)

                              I have a spare 256 card and I've formmated it the same and copied the recovery software to it WILL NOT WORK!!! I don't know what piece of magic I'm missing (I've even clicked the bootable check box) so IDK. I wanna call Konica and see if they would tell me but I doubt they will. I guess I could clone a working one maybe eh? Is there any SN info on the cards? I'm sure I might have a problem if I clone an working one over to a broke one. Anyone try it?
                              Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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                              • TheOwl
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                                #30
                                Re: Sand clock bizhub 601

                                I have managed to clone the files from a stuffed card to a new one and have everything work after doing that. It was only because the card was still readable that I could do this.
                                Please don't ask me for firmware or service manuals as refusal often offends.

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