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  • Rick
    Trusted Tech
    • Mar 2007
    • 277

    #1

    Bizhub C250 consumable reset

    This is not my normal brand but a friend has one of these and is using it to create a newsmagazine and he asked me is it possible to reset the image unit counters without actually replacing them . Can I do this ? If so what is the procedure ?
  • jrf
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Feb 2009
    • 142

    #2
    Re: Bizhub C250 consumable reset

    You can replace the chip on each image unit, this is the only way

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    • Rick
      Trusted Tech
      • Mar 2007
      • 277

      #3
      Re: Bizhub C250 consumable reset

      Originally posted by jrf
      You can replace the chip on each image unit, this is the only way
      Thanks I think I will just tell him to buy new ones.

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      • ni311
        Senior Tech

        Site Contributor
        500+ Posts
        • May 2008
        • 658

        #4
        Re: Bizhub C250 consumable reset

        On a long run, you will get cheaper if you just reset the chips. Usually, the imaging units run longer than their actual 'life'. Check out my website for more info, USB / Serial Chip reset for Konica Minolta Bizhub and CF imaging units and toners - Home
        Konica Minolta Error Codes - Explanations and Solutions

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        • RRodgers
          Service Manager

          1,000+ Posts
          • Jun 2009
          • 1947

          #5
          Re: Bizhub C250 consumable reset

          Originally posted by Rick
          This is not my normal brand but a friend has one of these and is using it to create a newsmagazine and he asked me is it possible to reset the image unit counters without actually replacing them . Can I do this ? If so what is the procedure ?
          Are you in Ontario Ca?
          Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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          • emujo
            Field Supervisor

            2,500+ Posts
            • Jun 2009
            • 3009

            #6
            Re: Bizhub C250 consumable reset

            For a single MFP, I would NOT!!! recommend resetting the chip..more than likely you will be out the cost of the chips, and/or the resetter tool, and then the cost of new IU anyway. Emujo
            If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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            • EarthKmTech
              Step aside, noob

              1,000+ Posts
              • May 2009
              • 2139

              #7
              Re: Bizhub C250 consumable reset

              Its a miracle if a c250, c352 or c450 colour imaging unit even lasts its normal life without developing some kind of defect, let alone asking for trouble by extending the life!

              Thank god most of these machines have been ground down into fisher price kids toys now.

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              • copyman
                Owner / Technician

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                2,500+ Posts
                • Sep 2005
                • 4718

                #8
                Re: Bizhub C250 consumable reset

                You should be able to get another cycle out of IU's.

                The trick to chips working is to replace the chip "before" the message shows on display. I chip them with one bar left on unit unit life indicator.

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                • ni311
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                  500+ Posts
                  • May 2008
                  • 658

                  #9
                  Re: Bizhub C250 consumable reset

                  There are few variables you should count in, but usually, on a long run, a chip resetter will cut the costs.
                  Konica Minolta Error Codes - Explanations and Solutions

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                  • Darren King
                    copiertech

                    500+ Posts
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 652

                    #10
                    Re: Bizhub C250 consumable reset

                    perthKMTECH is correct. I have had very, very limited success in rechipping image units for C250/252. Even if you rechip them before they run out the success rate is very bad. With these models it is worth it to get new ones.
                    Hope this helps
                    Darren

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                    • mrwho
                      Major Asshole!

                      Site Contributor
                      2,500+ Posts
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 4299

                      #11
                      Re: Bizhub C250 consumable reset

                      You can also configure the machine not to stop when the IUs reach end-of-life. The machine will keep asking for a new IU but will keep on working.

                      Of course the only way of stopping the machine from asking constantly for a new IU is to either replace the IU or the chip.

                      And this doesn't work for fusing units and transfer belts - when the machine stops asking for one of these, you must either replace them or put in a new fuse.
                      ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                      Mascan42

                      'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                      Ibid

                      I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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                      • Rick
                        Trusted Tech
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 277

                        #12
                        Re: Bizhub C250 consumable reset

                        Originally posted by RRodgers
                        Are you in Ontario Ca?
                        Thats Ontario Canada

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                        • PeterG
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                          100+ Posts
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 177

                          #13
                          Re: Bizhub C250 consumable reset

                          Originally posted by PerthKMTECH
                          Its a miracle if a c250, c352 or c450 colour imaging unit even lasts its normal life without developing some kind of defect, let alone asking for trouble by extending the life!

                          Thank god most of these machines have been ground down into fisher price kids toys now.
                          Agreed with you on the c250/252 image units. Getting them to last one life is a challenge. We have had pretty good success with the C352's
                          and the C350/450's seem to run forever.
                          Now with the non stop firmware this is irrelevant. The thing that worries me is that presumably the opposition are doing the same. As copy costs keep dropping surely
                          we are digging our own graves, and pretty soon the whole lot of us will effectively working for nothing.
                          I know that the only way we can achieve the GP that my boss sets each month is by resetting or firmware.

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                          • emujo
                            Field Supervisor

                            2,500+ Posts
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 3009

                            #14
                            Re: Bizhub C250 consumable reset

                            Our company has saved a huge amount of $$$ with the "PPLM" firmware, most of the IUs run well past the life stop settings and we only replace as needed..additionaly, the warehouse space, and my trunk space, have had a marked change as I don't have to haul around a set of IUs just in case. I would recommend letting your customers know of the change to KM's long time maintenance philosophy though, as many are used to us replacing items when the msg appeared. In my experiance, only my "graphics" intense customers give me any problems and most of those see the light when you explain that in any case, when CQ degrades, item(s) will be replaced. Emujo
                            If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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                            • Ianizer
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                              250+ Posts
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 380

                              #15
                              I used to reset C450 IUs frequently.

                              There's a toner shutter mod (FOC kits long gone - just order new shutters & seals and you should get new style) that helps reduce toner leakage & misting. Helps minimize premature charging comb striatum.

                              I typically get 2x+ OE yield.

                              -I
                              My name Peggy.
                              You got problem?

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